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12 years 10 months ago #9754 by foxhunter
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Welcome, Dave. And it is the best place for info hunting on the semiauto 308 as well as a host of other shooting topics.

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12 years 10 months ago #9795 by Racer
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Just purchased an Armalite AR10T. Looking forward to break-in and shooting. My first .308 AR. Currently looking at scopes (leaning toward Leupold Mark 4 3.5x10 40mm M3) and mounts ...

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12 years 10 months ago #9847 by Akai
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Welcome to the site Racer and congrats on the new purchase! we have alot of good info here for you, so take a look around and enjoy. Looks like you put some time into this already, that would be a good purchase on the scope and mounts ;)

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12 years 10 months ago - 12 years 10 months ago #9877 by gilmore007
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Hello all,

My name is Gilmore007, I enjoy playing COD with my daughters 11 and 6 who I recently built lower ar 15s for and plopped sporticals on top....with great success. I dirt bike, collect wide variety of guns, duck, goose and upland bird hunt 3.5 benelli sb2!!! I'm a stay at home Dad who works on the house and yard, I have no vendors!!!

Raised in Northern CA.....I know....I need to flee the state.....my wife passed the bar here so we are stck!

I would like a large nato gun (308) I thought AK for dependabilty but was talked into an AR platform by a knowledgeable gentleman, he wants to sell me a pws mk2 2450.00.

So that is my predicament... I'm thinking of buying a lower and plopping a gas upper on it!!!????? Can you help a brother out?
Last edit: 12 years 10 months ago by gilmore007. Reason: spelling gar to gas

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12 years 10 months ago #9878 by MrMarty51
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Gilmore
Welcome to the forum.
Try looking around in gunbroke.com as that is where I aquired My AR10 from,total cost with mailing was $1360.00,now mind you it does`nt have all the bells and whistles but it is a very capable rifle and I do enjoy shooting it very much.

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12 years 10 months ago #9879 by Charlie
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gilmore007 wrote: I thought AK for dependabilty but was talked into an AR platform by a knowledgeable gentleman, he wants to sell me a pws mk2 2450.00.


AK? Meh. Reliable yes, accurate they are not.

I hadn't heard of PWS, but I found them on a web search. Piston upper. Magpul stuff. I don't know whose receiver they use. The piston upper has a marginal advantage in heat transfer when sustained or full auto fire is expected, but may not be an advantage in a civilian semi.

The .308 AR type platform offers good reliability, good accuracy, ammo is common and available in many flavors. But it is not an open architecture like the AR-15. Armalite designed the AR-10 in 1955, but did not offer it to the public until 1996. Other manufacturers offer a similar platform, but by and large parts do not interchange.

I'm a solid supporter of Armalite. I own two: An A4BF and a BNMF. For routine work the A4BF at $1250 is good, and mine routinely shoots 1.5 MOA. The BNMF at $1850 is heavier, but will do 1.0 MOA or better. I have never shot a more accurate semi.

Charlie

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12 years 10 months ago #9902 by Akai
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AK, Meh, about as accurate as the shooter behind the gun or as well as the rifle was put together. I know that allot of you out there don't like AK's, but don't put them down! they as coming from a mechanical side are as good a gun as any other rifle, if not you tell me why? the ballistics are as good as the cartridge they come from and the bullet as accurate as the barrel it comes out of, the rest is up to the shooter. I've put two together over the last couple of month's the first taking a 240lb Doe at 100m and putting meat in my freezer, not bad for a $320.00 dollar gun! Beats a $1000.00 gun that jams all the time! "You can but anything that you have the $ for, but when you build it yourself you know what you have!"

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12 years 10 months ago #9915 by MrMarty51
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Akai wrote: AK, Meh, about as accurate as the shooter behind the gun or as well as the rifle was put together. I know that allot of you out there don't like AK's, but don't put them down! they as coming from a mechanical side are as good a gun as any other rifle, if not you tell me why? the ballistics are as good as the cartridge they come from and the bullet as accurate as the barrel it comes out of, the rest is up to the shooter. I've put two together over the last couple of month's the first taking a 240lb Doe at 100m and putting meat in my freezer, not bad for a $320.00 dollar gun! Beats a $1000.00 gun that jams all the time! "You can but anything that you have the $ for, but when you build it yourself you know what you have!"

Akai
Do You have an AR10 that is jamming ???
I do`nt know about any of the other members in the forum,but,I have fired many a hundred rounds through My AR10 and I have had not one bit of trouble with it,jamming,misfiring or any other kind of a problem.
Just curious is all and if You do have an AR10 that is jamming maby the members of the forum can help.just a suggestion.thats all.

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12 years 10 months ago #9916 by Bob Downey
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The simple truth is that the very trait which makes the AK-47 so dependable is the very thing which makes it less accurate.
Simply put, it was designed to have very generous clearances between moving parts.
Slop makes an AK dependable.
Differences in accuracy between AK receiver types has been observed.
Stamped receivers are subject to torsion.
Milled recever types are stronger and thus provide more stabilty thus more accuracy.
Tightening the tolerances and changing the type of round chambered can change a lot of things.
Hence, the reason the Russians designed the Dragonov(SVD) Sniper Rifle which uses the 7.62x54R (It is available in .308 Win).
All things considered, bang for the buck goes to the AK.
I spent way too much money on my AR-10 to justify it.
The difference between what I spent on my AR-10 vs what I could have spent on a VEPR or a Saiga in .308 Win could have bought a lot of ammo.
Strangely I'm still glad I bought an Armalite AR-10 though.
I'm not an elitest but, I do feel a sence of pride owning one of the best American made shooting platforms available.

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12 years 10 months ago #9917 by Charlie
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Bob Downey wrote: The simple truth is that the very trait which makes the AK-47 so dependable is the very thing which makes it less accurate.

I'm not an elitest but, I do feel a sence of pride owning one of the best American made shooting platforms available.


+1. I purely loved my Vector Underfolder (EG parts kit), but it wouldn't shoot as tight a group at 100 yds as my AR-10 does at 200 yds. And it had scope mount issues.

To put an AK scope rail on an underfolder your left stock strut has to have a dogleg in it. Dogleg left stock struts are unbelievably rare. I'm not terribly fond of the AK scope mount anyway.

Charlie

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