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11 years 7 months ago #22601 by 10-76
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faawrenchbndr wrote: Good points made, but some of his "errors" are so great, that it could cost a novice a crap load of money when damaging a lower ot having a upper receiver fail a few years down the road due to corrosion from using graphite anti seize.

Not tryin to nit pick so much, just trying to identify he is passing along a CRAP LOAD of very poor info!


Very good. I can appreciate you looking out for the novices, but how about qualifying your opinions with some facts and/or alternatives?

For instance, I don't hear him saying he IS specifically using a graphite anti-seize, but what do you use? ( I have been using anti-seize paste for several decades and have not heard of this warning about graphite AS being a corrosive for certain metals and/or applications?)

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11 years 7 months ago #22604 by LebbenB
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13fcolt wrote: Good vid. but I got to point out NOT to do this kind of work with the magazine vise block like he used. I don't know how his barrel nut came off so easy, it's certainly not typical, but there is a risk of damage torquing on it unsupported like that. For a barrel change, upper receiver vise blocks should be used as a minimum.

This!

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11 years 7 months ago #22608 by OleCowboy
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faawrenchbndr wrote: Good points made, but some of his "errors" are so great, that it could cost a novice a crap load of money when damaging a lower ot having a upper receiver fail a few years down the road due to corrosion from using graphite anti seize.

Not tryin to nit pick so much, just trying to identify he is passing along a CRAP LOAD of very poor info!

I and sure many others on here would APPRECIATE you taking another look at that video and point out proper or better procedures. All of us have a goal of learning more and learning correctly or at least another way.

While I have most of my life with a gun in my hands going back to 5 when got my first gun, to my teens on the ranch where i wore a gun on my hip when working on the ranch (kill snakes), the military I am nothing but an end user. Not a gunsmith in spite of being a machinist for many years, never got into reloading. None of this precludes an interest but rather its a question of cycles and priorities. So I look to folks on here to provide me with additional knowledge...thanks.

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11 years 7 months ago #22610 by faawrenchbndr
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10-76 wrote:

faawrenchbndr wrote: Good points made, but some of his "errors" are so great, that it could cost a novice a crap load of money when damaging a lower ot having a upper receiver fail a few years down the road due to corrosion from using graphite anti seize.

Not tryin to nit pick so much, just trying to identify he is passing along a CRAP LOAD of very poor info!


Very good. I can appreciate you looking out for the novices, but how about qualifying your opinions with some facts and/or alternatives?

For instance, I don't hear him saying he IS specifically using a graphite anti-seize, but what do you use? ( I have been using anti-seize paste for several decades and have not heard of this warning about graphite AS being a corrosive for certain metals and/or applications?)



Unless one specifically states differently, when they say "anti-seize" , this means the standard stuff. I have been working aircraft for 28 years, graphite, the main anti gall component in "standard" anti-seize is extremely corrosive to aluminum, magnesium and titanium, google it or look in a scientific encyclopedia. I use a molybdenum base grease, exactly what the Armorer's manual has stated since 1957. Nickel or copper based anti-seize can also be used. Some use standard or extra pressure grease. While this may work, it does not contain the proper anti galling properties and stated in the manual to get a proper torque.

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11 years 7 months ago #22612 by faawrenchbndr
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I'm not dogging the guy's video,......just the inaccuracies he stated.

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11 years 7 months ago #22614 by OleCowboy
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faawrenchbndr wrote: I'm not dogging the guy's video,......just the inaccuracies he stated.

NOT asking you to dog anyone's video, asking you to give us correct information. If I am doing something wrong and you point it out AND show me the correct way, or if I am doing something and there is a better approach or way of doing it, man, that makes you gold and me better.

That is what forums are about, exchange of info so we can all better our selves.

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11 years 7 months ago - 11 years 7 months ago #22616 by faawrenchbndr
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That comment was simply a lancet statement.
Will get an excerpt posted shortly from the armorer's manual for barrel install.

ARMY TM 9-1005-319-23&P
AIR FORCE TO 11W3-5-5-42
3-10. UPPER RECEIVER AND BARREL ASSEMBLY (CONT).
d. REASSEMBLY (CONT)
NOTE
The alignment pin (6) must not show any signs of looseness.
5. Position rifle barrel assembly (2) with alignment pin (6) up. Using barrel remover fixture (7), clamp rifle barrel
assembly (2) in vise.
NOTE
The slot should fit the alignment pin perfectly with very little or no rotational play present. Note the play in a new
rifle barrel assembly and new upper receiver assembly and use this as a guide.
6. Align upper receiver assembly (8) or (8A) using alignment pin (6) and the slot in upper receiver assembly (8) or
(8A). Install over end of rifle barrel assembly (2).
7. Wipe upper receiver threads clean and ensure there are no burrs. Apply molybdenum disulfide grease to the
threads before installation.


The Armalite Tech Notes state "anti-seize".........make damn sure it does not contain graphite.
Last edit: 11 years 7 months ago by faawrenchbndr.
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11 years 7 months ago #22619 by 13fcolt
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faawrenchbndr wrote: I'm not dogging the guy's video,......just the inaccuracies he stated.


I think you're just jealous of how easy his barrel nut came off. :whistle:

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11 years 7 months ago #22620 by faawrenchbndr
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:dual:




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11 years 7 months ago #22622 by OleCowboy
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Interesting:

I grew up being taught to NOT use graphite on anything except key locks and we always had a tube of the stuff laying around for that. Living on ranch and having tractors, trucks and all kinds of stuff much of it with high weather exposure. So we were always repairing something, but did not use graphite for anything but key locks. We used a lot of motor oil and wheel bearing grease on stuff and of course Gun Oil on our guns...

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