Armalite recognizing LE/Military

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11 years 6 months ago #23127 by OleCowboy
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Lets review this again:

Company xyz wants to offer a discount for military active, retired and having honorably served. There business is in a state somewhere in the US, they do not have a retail store, they do their business over the internet.

They have 3 option:

1) Accept you word you are military

2) Require some form of proof

3) Forget it, not worth time or trouble

The company decided based upon its management that accepting the word of anyone who says they are military would mostly likely mean they would be selling near 100% of their products to folks who say they are military, reduce sales and revenues by almost 20% and most of all be an insult to those to really do qualify. They are not debating between option 2 and 3...


Notary sigs rarely travel across state lines. The company has requested a copy of your military ID or DD 214 or other proof??????

They offer a 20% discount, your order totaled $3700 and your discount would be $740.

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11 years 6 months ago #23128 by HeloMech
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mrraley wrote: believing is seeing...


How true.

Dealing with the some people is like dealing with people who believe the money they earn from working somehow magically converts itself into income that is taxable by the government. It is what it is. Like they say. You can teach some of the people some of the time. But you can't teach all of the people all of the time. That's life.

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11 years 6 months ago #23132 by HeloMech
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OleCowboy wrote:
They have 3 option:

1) Accept you word you are military
2) Require some form of proof
3) Forget it, not worth time or trouble

The company has requested a copy of your military ID or DD 214 or other proof??????

They offer a 20% discount, your order totaled $3700 and your discount would be $740.



So you provide them with a copy of your most current eRAS Statement from DFAS.

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11 years 6 months ago - 11 years 6 months ago #23135 by mrraley
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I'm not saying either side is right and I'm not saying either side is wrong.

BUT...

I do know forms can be faked, I know email address can be bought or used as an alias (fake), I know ID cards can be faked also (harder, but can be done).

I know the law (been there done that), also know A LOT of military and government employees (State and Federal) that send copies or pictures of their creds every day in order to save a buck.

What it boils down to is this... You want to save a buck and you trust the company you want to order from, how are you going to prove it?

Would I take your word? NO
Would I believe a document I did see written? NO (I've got copies of DoD headers for memorandums and can make my own memos)
Would I believe at least seeing a copy of a picture ID? Yes

:rotfl: joke line... I'm from Missouri... SHOW ME. :rotfl:
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11 years 6 months ago #23137 by OleCowboy
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Take away: Companies that offer or want to offer a military discount, unless they can do it at Point of Sale like Home Depot, Lowes, etc it may or may not be worth their effort.

I own a company and we do not offer a mil discount, would I like too, sure, but trying to capture the legit military guy is not easy, nor do I want to keep records or expose myself to liability of accepting proof via mail. So I just don't offer it.

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11 years 6 months ago #23138 by HeloMech
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Understood. I'm not arguing one way or the other, either. I merely pointed out that photocopying a federal ID is against the law. How someone else chooses to use that knowledge is their business. As for me. I'll continue to fight... and to educate. :)

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11 years 6 months ago #23139 by HeloMech
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OleCowboy wrote: Take away: Companies that offer or want to offer a military discount, unless they can do it at Point of Sale like Home Depot, Lowes, etc it may or may not be worth their effort.

I own a company and we do not offer a mil discount, would I like too, sure, but trying to capture the legit military guy is not easy, nor do I want to keep records or expose myself to liability of accepting proof via mail. So I just don't offer it.


I'm not sure what the answer is. As mrraley pointed out, almost everything can be faked these days. It's certainly a far cry from the days when people could leave the front door open, go out for the day, and return home to find the house as they left it.

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