AR-10 forward assist

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15 years 11 months ago #866 by donkey1984
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I think that Rock rivers have the FA. i think.

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15 years 11 months ago #867 by donkey1984
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And dpms has them on some of there ar10's.

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15 years 11 months ago #868 by featherblue
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308WILLDO wrote:

A FORWARD ASSIST ISN'T NEEDED ON A 308 RIFLE IF YOU LOOK AT ALL NATO RIFLES THEY DON'T HAVE THEM SUCH AS THE FN FAL, G3, L1A1, OR EVEN THE CLASSIC M14.THE 308 RIFLE CARTRIDGE IS STRONG ENOUGH IT SHOULDN'T JAM UP AT ALL.


Any auto loader can fail to feed. And it will happen at the worst possible time. My brother can fill you in on all the feed failures in Nam in the early part of the war with AR-15 & M-16's and M-14's too.

I like the FA on an AR type rifle for the ability to SILENTLY lock the bolt if needed. There are times when the ability to be stealth is tactically desirable.

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15 years 10 months ago #952 by crux
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www.armalite.com/Categories2.aspx?Catego...aa-aea0-49488ec48776
Their catalog does say Forward Assist now.
I'd like to see pictures if anyone finds any of the new setup.
I wonder how this will affect interchangability between pre FA armalites, and future armalites.

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15 years 10 months ago #970 by Rakkasan
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Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The caliber has nothing to do with it.

The reason AR's have a forward assist at all is because you cannot push on the bolt to close it. Quietly or not.

On the other weapons you cited (FAL, G3, M14) the cocking handle is directly attached to the bolt. If the cocking handle is all the way home, the bolt is closed.

Period.

Not so on any AR.

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15 years 10 months ago #987 by lifestar17
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I have completly quit using the forward assist on the ar15s. And I would not even consider using one on the 10. Like crux said, if it doesn't go to battery there is something wrong and a stuck case in the chamber sucks.

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15 years 10 months ago #992 by Hank in Arkansas
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From an historical perspective, Gene Stoner was opposed to a forward assist on the AR10 and the AR15. It was built into the AR15 only because the Army insisted on it. Stoner felt that if a round failed to chamber, then something was wrong and needed to be fixed. The last thing you wanted to do was to force the round into the chamber and then risk not being able to get it out. A properly functioning AR10 should not need one; I rather suspect that Armalite is responding to customers who want a FA for whatever reason. The FA has become "standard" on the AR15, and a lot of shooters automatically think it should also be on the AR10.
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15 years 10 months ago #995 by crux
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The only liability I can see is possible impact to interchangability of older and newer components.

I'm not opposed to a FA per se, but I'd mostly likely clear and move on if the bolt wouldn't lock, as I do with the AK rather than mash bolt closed.

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15 years 10 months ago #996 by featherblue
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The original M-16's we carried in Nam did not have forward assists. They also jammed. The magazines were junk.

To re-state my reason for a FA on my AR-10: I want to be able to lock SILENTLY like my bolt guns. I do not want a "gook" to hear me lock, jump up and shoot me!

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14 years 11 months ago #2745 by stef
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The original A.R.10 in the portugese model have forward assist but that is done by the handle to load the rifle.

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