ArmaLite AR-10 trademark.

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12 years 10 months ago - 12 years 10 months ago #10299 by Bob Downey
Replied by Bob Downey on topic Re: ArmaLite AR-10 trademark.

ARMALITE TR wrote: While I'm new here to this website I'm not new to the semi-auto world. My reason for this topic is simple; to clear up a misconception that the term "AR-10" is a generic term used by some to describe their non-ArmaLite rifle. Why does ArmaLite object to other companies calling their rifles “AR-10"?

First, we object because they aren’t AR-10®s. The AR-10 is a special rifle manufactured by ArmaLite. Second, the model term “AR-10® is a registered ArmaLite trademark and may be used only on ArmaLite rifles or rifles made under license.

ArmaLite spent a lot of money producing the AR-10 when no one else would. We have spent a lot of time building the name and reputation of this rifle and trademark law requires us to prevent others from infringing on the trademark.

In addition, assuring that our model designation is properly used only with our rifle reduces the likelihood of owners of problematic lower-grade semiautomatic 308 rifles from referring to their problems as “AR-10 problems”.

I just thought this needed to be said.

TR
ArmaLite


Cheers!
Thanks to Armalite having stayed the course and developed and then resurrected such a fantastic rifle.
I'm proud to own one and brag when I can.

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12 years 10 months ago - 12 years 10 months ago #10396 by BUILDING MY SASS
Replied by BUILDING MY SASS on topic Re: ArmaLite AR-10 trademark.

OleCowboy wrote: I guess the question is!?!? Just what do we call the group of guns when we refer to them"

AR-Type

M 16

??????

I will go with with whatever works...


I have been contemplating this for a few days...I hope that my response will clear this up....Make PopCorn....

As with the First Cars made in the US...Ford...ArmaLite was the First to create the True AR-10...a .308 or 7.62x51 Cal. Rifle...this was to be the competion to the M-14 in the day...to better understand the point being made..you need to read the "History" of the AR-10...

www.armalite.com/Categories.aspx?Categor...4b-9e48-e56d7c3c05f7

Where in the beginning Eugene Stoner under ArmaLite Invented and Produce the first AR-10...you would not call a Chevy a Ford even though they are designed from the same Design to begin with...Correct.
As With Colt in the Future days...as the Quote "AR-15" was developed...all new comers could not use the Designation being Copy Right or Trade mark legalities...same as the M-4 title ...
As Stoner Progressed through the Rifle Industry..Being ArmaLite then Colt...and few others...Finally Arriving at Knights Armament...and Designing the SR....(Stoner Rifle) for them....it all takes hold....ArmaLite Position on this is warranted...because the term.."AR-10" has been generalized just like the AR-15, but in the case of the True AR-10 there are some Differences....
That is the Issue...also, just about every company out there has now got into the .308 platform....so everyone says..."I have a AR-10"...where it could be Flattering...but none the less...it can be Wrong when discussing issues or Parts....See my Point...
Brand name is a Personal Issue..if you are a "Loyalist" such as my self....
With the Recent "Redesign" Of the True AR-10..I feel this topic will progress even Further...but make No Bones About it...No Mater What..ArmaLite was the First and only True AR-10 out there ....some may say they have improved on it..and Some may Have...But there will be Only one True AR-10...ArmaLite...
AR Stand for ArmaLite...History StateS this.... :dry:
Target On...
BUILDING MY SASS....
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12 years 10 months ago #10399 by BUILDING MY SASS
Replied by BUILDING MY SASS on topic Re: ArmaLite AR-10 trademark.

Bob Downey wrote:

ARMALITE TR wrote: While I'm new here to this website I'm not new to the semi-auto world. My reason for this topic is simple; to clear up a misconception that the term "AR-10" is a generic term used by some to describe their non-ArmaLite rifle. Why does ArmaLite object to other companies calling their rifles “AR-10"?

First, we object because they aren’t AR-10®s. The AR-10 is a special rifle manufactured by ArmaLite. Second, the model term “AR-10® is a registered ArmaLite trademark and may be used only on ArmaLite rifles or rifles made under license.

ArmaLite spent a lot of money producing the AR-10 when no one else would. We have spent a lot of time building the name and reputation of this rifle and trademark law requires us to prevent others from infringing on the trademark.

In addition, assuring that our model designation is properly used only with our rifle reduces the likelihood of owners of problematic lower-grade semiautomatic 308 rifles from referring to their problems as “AR-10 problems”.

I just thought this needed to be said.

TR
ArmaLite


Cheers!
Thanks to Armalite having stayed the course and developed and then resurrected such a fantastic rifle.
I'm proud to own one and brag when I can.

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+1 MY FRIEND....OH YEAH...BRAVO... :woohoo:
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12 years 10 months ago - 12 years 10 months ago #10402 by OleCowboy
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HighMaster SASS has spoken the word and so be it across the land...ever more :)
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12 years 10 months ago #10404 by faawrenchbndr
Replied by faawrenchbndr on topic Re: ArmaLite AR-10 trademark.

BUILDING MY SASS wrote: ....there will be ONLY one True AR-10.......ArmaLite.


Mind if I use this in a sig on another site? B)

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12 years 10 months ago #10410 by BUILDING MY SASS
Replied by BUILDING MY SASS on topic Re: ArmaLite AR-10 trademark.

OleCowboy wrote: HighMaster SASS has spoken the word and so be it across the land...ever more :)


I wouldn't go that far...LOL :laugh:
It is just written History, and yes, I know my ArmaLite History...
I researched all the Platforms before I bought mine...I always came back to the Beginning.. ;)
BMS

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12 years 10 months ago #10411 by BUILDING MY SASS
Replied by BUILDING MY SASS on topic Re: ArmaLite AR-10 trademark.

faawrenchbndr wrote:

BUILDING MY SASS wrote: ....there will be ONLY one True AR-10.......ArmaLite.


Mind if I use this in a sig on another site? B)


I don't own it...It is just the Truth... :dry:
Feel Free. :woohoo:
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12 years 10 months ago #10412 by ARMALITE TR
Replied by ARMALITE TR on topic Re: ArmaLite AR-10 trademark.

faawrenchbndr wrote:

BUILDING MY SASS wrote: ....there will be ONLY one True AR-10.......ArmaLite.


Mind if I use this in a sig on another site? B)


No problem.

TR

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12 years 9 months ago #10785 by OleCowboy
Replied by OleCowboy on topic Re: ArmaLite AR-10 trademark.
From another forum:

"Eugene Stoner designed the AR-10 and not the AR-15. Stoner's assistants adapted Stoner's AR-10 (.308) caliber design with some changes to work with the .223 round.

The interesting thing is that Armalite never produced the AR-15 for the Army as Fairchild (who owned Armalite) sold the design to Colt for production. So, if you really want "the original production AR-15" you'd buy a Colt.

If you wanted the last .308 Stoner designed you wouldn't buy an Armalite AR-10, you'd buy a Knight's Armament Company (KAC) SR-25 (Stoner Rifle 25) that Eugene Stoner designed for KAC in the early 1990's when he worked for KAC.

All of this is just trivia because there are at least 15 manufacturers that make quality AR-15's style rifles, and at least 10 that make quality AR .308's - can't call them AR-10's because Armalite registered AR-10 as a trademark and only they can use AR-10 to describe an AR style .308 rifle."

True, mostly true??????????????

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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #12331 by Sharkey
Replied by Sharkey on topic Re: ArmaLite AR-10 trademark.

ARMALITE TR wrote: While I'm new here to this website I'm not new to the semi-auto world. My reason for this topic is simple; to clear up a misconception that the term "AR-10" is a generic term used by some to describe their non-ArmaLite rifle. Why does ArmaLite object to other companies calling their rifles “AR-10"?

First, we object because they aren’t AR-10®s. The AR-10 is a special rifle manufactured by ArmaLite. Second, the model term “AR-10® is a registered ArmaLite trademark and may be used only on ArmaLite rifles or rifles made under license.

ArmaLite spent a lot of money producing the AR-10 when no one else would. We have spent a lot of time building the name and reputation of this rifle and trademark law requires us to prevent others from infringing on the trademark.

In addition, assuring that our model designation is properly used only with our rifle reduces the likelihood of owners of problematic lower-grade semiautomatic 308 rifles from referring to their problems as “AR-10 problems”.

I just thought this needed to be said.

TR
ArmaLite


Armalite TR,

You are indeed fighting the good fight. I own an AR10 myself and absolutely love it and am looking toward an M15 carbine in 7.62 x 39 for my wife. These rifles are gold and all others, who even THINK about using the AR10 nomenclature should just get a damn grip and come up with something like "Candy-Hands" or maybe even "AR10WANNABE".

You guys keep makin em great and I'll keep raising my family, safe and sound on your excellent rifles.

Comments from a proud American, a vet and ARMALITE AR10 owner.

Sharkey
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