Problems with Accuracy out of 2 AR10Ts

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14 years 3 months ago - 14 years 3 months ago #5388 by CST
I would tell tthem that this is unacceptable and demand a new rifle that has been tested and sent to you...its bad enough that I don't think I would risk even buying one now. I can't even find a single person to give me a review. I have seen many great feedback on DPMS rifles..but not onear10ts. I may have to give 6.5grendel build a go now.
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14 years 3 months ago #5389 by adminv15
Good news is Chris is a member of the site. And you spelled his name right! Bad news is I have not seen him around in ages.

I've exchanged emails with him before and he was helpful so I hope he'll be able to get things squared away for you.

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14 years 3 months ago #5390 by Hebs
I wasn't talking to you bjbob... I understand where you are coming from...

As for what to do, at best you can go through the chain of managers until you get to one that will actually do something for you... (free hardware or something.)

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14 years 3 months ago #5438 by ghostdance56
So what has happened? New rifles? Traded for DPMS?
I have 3; one 24 inch Eagle Arms that I am proud of; a 16 inch AR that shoots like yours: first shot that dead on and then it goes nuts but hey it is 16 inch for deer hunting out of a climbing stand and the first shot is the sweet one; a .243 AR that is sweet.

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14 years 1 month ago #5787 by Maestro Pistolero
Don't leave us hanging now. WHAT HAPPENED? :unsure:

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14 years 1 month ago #5792 by banjobob
We got them back Friday, mounted a new night force on mine and took them for test drive. First 3 shots out mine were, no BS, could not have been more than 0.25, after that it open up. 1/2 the groups were over 1 inch some around 2.0 and 1/2 were under an inch. About the same with the other rifle.

I know a lot the fault lies with the shooter, but quite a few Groups were ruined by legitimate flyers. Overall, I'm happy. I'm still mad it took me 11 months to get the gun I was promised.

I'm encouraged with it and look forward to learning the gun, reducing the operator errors and hopefully get a bit more consistent results.

Armalite put the barrel from the National Match rifle on them. I think it's a little heavier, has a 1-10 twist and is threaded.

The only reason I'm not 100% pissed at armalite is because of the gentleman helping, Mario. He could not have been more eager to help and resolve my problem.

Most of the frustration I had was because of the wait involved. This was entirely waiting for parts. I just can't believe they don't stock all necessary parts for warranty work. It's bad enough to send a rifle back and be without for the time it takes to mail it and to work on it, but it's a kick in teeth to be told you have to wait for 1-2 months for the barrel to arrive.

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14 years 1 month ago #5793 by lifestar17
I have an AR10T that would shoot a 4" group at 100yds that I boought a long time ago. I just gave up on it and stuck in the back. Y'all peaked my interest and I got it out again. Still shot bad with all sorts of ammo. Pulled the scope and put the alignment tool on it. Crap! the rings were out of alignment. Bought a Burris tactical mount and put it on. To my surprise, 1/2" groups without wind doping at 100yds. Thanks for getting me back interested.

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14 years 1 month ago - 14 years 1 month ago #5794 by lifestar17
double tap. My bad.
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14 years 1 month ago - 14 years 1 month ago #5795 by ghostdance56
Can you guys share what load and brand ammo you are using?

I have found Hornady 168 gr. A-Max to give the best group.
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14 years 1 month ago #5807 by Hot Lead Zapper
banjobob wrote:

My dad I both bought ourselves new 20" AR10Ts for Christmas. They both have leupold mark 4 6.5-20 scopes on Larue base and rings. Using reloads and every factory load we could get our hands on the best either rifle would do was 2.5-3 inches. We were obviously convinced that since both guns were not shooting like we wanted it had to be the shooters not the guns, but this was confirmed by several other people at our range who are very familiar with Ar10's and 2 stage s.

We sent them back to Armalite and was told "the barrels were bad and we're going to replace them" They were out of 20" barrels and eventually they offered to replace them with 24".

The guns shoot much better than before, but not great. With Federal Match 168 the best I have gotten is around 1.5 and usually its more like 1.75 at 100. Reloads are about the same. Redding bushing dies .002 -.003 neck tension, winchester brass 168 and 175 SMK & 42-44gr varget.

job was performed per the armalite website.

Further insult came when I shot 0.43 5 shot group with my Thompson Encore 15" Pistol in 6BR between groups with the AR10.

Any suggestions would be more than welcomed. I'm getting a little embarrassed when I show up to my range and several members are bragging about their DPMS shooting 1/2" all day long and then ask how mine's doing.




JP Tension Pin
www.jprifles.com/1.5.1.7_small_tp.php
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Accu-wedge cut down to fit between AR10 upper and lower.

I'm betting those DPMS shooters have fine tuned there receivers with plastic accu-wedges.

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