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12 years 9 months ago #10656 by silver78
Is This the End of the AR-10... was created by silver78
...as we know it?

Please read the announcement from Armalite below.

Thread title is ment to stimulate conversation - it's not the end - but in my view this is a big announcement. I hope Uncle Armalite will add some color here.

ARMALITE® INTRODUCES
TWO ADDITIONS TO THE AR-10® FAMILY
NEW AR-10A RIFLES ACCEPT 3RD PARTY MAGS!

NOTE: WARRANTY HAS BEEN CHANGED TO OUR LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY.

(Geneseo, IL) ArmaLite, Inc. is pleased to announce the AR-10A. This new option of the famous AR-10 will accept traditional ArmaLite “waffle” magazines and some 3rd party magazines.

ArmaLite customers asked for a choice, and that’s just what we’ve provided. The AR-10A family of ArmaLite® firearms is functionally identical to our AR-10B family. Operation, controls, and maintenance are the same. However, the AR-10A family is designed to accept early ArmaLite AR-10 “Waffle” magazines and good quality magazines copied from them, instead of ArmaLite’s proprietary steel magazines that are used in our AR-10B family. Neither family of firearms will function correctly with the other family’s magazines.

We have tested, we recommend, and we ship polymer Magpul PMAG® 20LR magazines with our AR-10As. Other similar derivative magazines such as the KAC, M110, and DPMS / Remington 19 round magazines may fit and may function, but we have not tested them so we can’t assess their reliability. You can purchase extra PMAG®s from our website, www.armalite.com .

The first members of the AR-10A family are the AR-10 Super SASS and the AR-10 A4 Carbine. Both will be formally introduced to the public on Tuesday, January 17th at the 2012 SHOT Show in Las Vegas. If you will be attending SHOT, please visit us at Booth 11771.

ArmaLite has one of the broadest product lines in the firearms industry. We manufacture and sell semiautomatic rifles in a variety of calibers including 5.56mm and 7.62mm, long range super-accurate bolt action rifles in calibers including .308 Winchester, .300 Winchester Magnum, .338 Lapua, 50 BMG, and classic 9mm pistols. Visit ArmaLite at www.armalite.com .

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12 years 9 months ago #10657 by WES213
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Can't see this as anything but a good move as choice is what we all want and if mag sales are the only thing keeping a Co. alive then you didn't have long any way.

While i will not be selling my lower just to swap out for this one i can see it being a selling point for many guys looking to buy a new AR-10.

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12 years 9 months ago #10663 by AR260rem
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WES213 wrote: Can't see this as anything but a good move as choice is what we all want and if mag sales are the only thing keeping a Co. alive then you didn't have long any way.

While i will not be selling my lower just to swap out for this one i can see it being a selling point for many guys looking to buy a new AR-10.


Agreed. I have heard people complain on other forums and suggesting others to buy different brands because Armalite AR-10s only accept proprietary magazines that are expensive. Although I think their current mags are built very well, I think they may get more rifle sales going this route.

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12 years 9 months ago #10666 by WES213
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AR260rem wrote:

WES213 wrote: Can't see this as anything but a good move as choice is what we all want and if mag sales are the only thing keeping a Co. alive then you didn't have long any way.

While i will not be selling my lower just to swap out for this one i can see it being a selling point for many guys looking to buy a new AR-10.


I have heard people complain on other forums and suggesting others to buy different brands because Armalite AR-10s only accept proprietary magazines that are expensive.


My Ruger mini-14 will take many after market mags but i have found them all to have flaws in them so i only get factory built mags for it now, who can really blame Armalite for not wanting off brand mag makers to crap on the legacy of quality they have built for themselves?

Now that buyers have a choice i am willing to bet lists will start popping up containing what mags work and what mags are knowen to fail and the need for such lists is why i will keep my old lower and pay what ever it cost to get the quality i am looking for in an AR. ;)

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12 years 9 months ago #10667 by weshowe
Replied by weshowe on topic Re: Is This the End of the AR-10...
Gents,

When I purchased my AR-10 custom I didn't know a lot about the big .308 in an enlarged AR-15 reciever. I've come to trust it and can't ever recall having a stoppage of any type.

Armalite chose to pattern their magazines after the sucessful and reliable M-14 magazines. Early magazines were converted M-14 mags. In retrospect that's not a bad idea. They could have used the FAL magazine as some do, but I think there choice was correct.

Yes, magazines are expensive, but you pay for what you get. If you grouse about the cost of AR-10 mags you need to look at hi-cap pistol magazines currently offered. Dealer cost on them in in the mid $30 range and up. You still going to be unhappy about AR-10 mags costs?

I liken this to the man who buys a thousand dollar handgun and then uses a aftermarket or used magazine that was cheap and wonders why it won't run.

Magazines are part of a system. The performance you get is what you pay for...

I'll continue to buy AR-10 mags and be happy. It's hardly likely that magazines sales are keeping Armalite afloat. If so, then everyones in the same boat.

Wes

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12 years 9 months ago #10674 by 13fcolt
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This is far from the end. This move can only help Armalite in the long run, they have simply expanded their product line to meet customer demands.

Armalite has, for whatever reason, had to endure and suffer through a flood of near cult like haters. This magazine nonsense is just that. It's not like we are talking about bren tens or anything.

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12 years 9 months ago #10686 by Edge
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Nice to see them starting to get over their ego trip. This will be good for them, but their a bit late to the party. Too many others offering great rifles with magazines that the people want. They should have went this route a long, long time ago. Not trying to bash....just sayin'

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12 years 9 months ago #10689 by WES213
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I get what you are saying man but if the only complaint one can come up with is proprietary mags then thats the gun for me. LOL

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12 years 9 months ago #10691 by AR260rem
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I suggest no one buy an Armalite rifle because of the magazines. That way I can pick up a few more during a clean up sale on the cheap :laugh: :laugh: :woohoo:

Seriously though, the rifles are awesome, and I never wanted any other since they were the first, but I have seen people use that against Armalite. Their loss!

I bought 1 of the 10 pack and 1 5 pack direct from Armalite (20 and 25 round) and all have functioned perfectly. They are very high quality and you can tell just by looking at and holding one. The price is not bad $30 each for 20rd, $35 for 25rd, plus I'm sure they will outlast many other $30 things in life. :)

I hope Armalite will manufacture both types of magazines and everyone can be happy.

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12 years 9 months ago #10815 by nrar15
Replied by nrar15 on topic Re: Is This the End of the AR-10...
I'll stick with my Armalite mags, If you keep your eye out you can find 25 round mags for $20.00-$25.00 well worth the money. I'll never lve long enough to wear out all the mags I have.

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