Chris Kyle -American Sniper killed today

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11 years 10 months ago #16532 by Siscowet
I had been wanting to read his book, and as his family will receive the royalties, I decided to buy it today. Again my prayers go out to his family.

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11 years 10 months ago #16539 by et1911rph
I don't mean to hijack my original post but you raise a valid concern.
I'm an old Corpsman (78 a 84) and did a pharmacy intern rotation in the early 90's at the VA hospital in Houston. The vast majority of health care providers there were outstanding. With that said, my fear is that the VA system will take this one step farther and classify anyone that has seen combat as potential PTSD and require proof that said person is "stable".

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11 years 10 months ago #16540 by OleCowboy

et1911rph wrote: I don't mean to hijack my original post but you raise a valid concern.
I'm an old Corpsman (78 a 84) and did a pharmacy intern rotation in the early 90's at the VA hospital in Houston. The vast majority of health care providers there were outstanding. With that said, my fear is that the VA system will take this one step farther and classify anyone that has seen combat as potential PTSD and require proof that said person is "stable".

And that is NOT easy to prove at that time..become a 'Catch 22'

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11 years 10 months ago #16545 by Sharkey
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(Reuters) - The man accused of gunning down former U.S. Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, a prominent military sniper, and a second man at a Texas shooting range has been arraigned on two counts of capital murder, the Texas Department of Public Safety said on Sunday.

Eddie Ray Routh, 25, was accused of killing Kyle, 38, and Chad Littlefield, 35, a neighbor of Kyle, on Saturday afternoon at the Rough Creek Lodge, about 50 miles southwest of Fort Worth, the department said.

"They were shot at close range," said department spokesman Sergeant Lonny Haschel said.

Kyle, considered one of America's deadliest snipers after killing 160 people during his career as U.S. Navy SEAL sniper, wrote the book "American Sniper" about his military service from 1999 to 2009.

Routh, described in local media reports as a former Marine who suffered from post traumatic stress syndrome (PTSD), was arrested at his Lancaster, Texas home several hours after the shooting, having led police on a chase in his pickup truck.

"He was taken into custody after a brief pursuit," Haschel said.

According to a posting on a website run by members of the Special Operations Forces community, Kyle had been volunteering his time to help Marine Corps veterans suffering from PTSD and mentoring them.

"Part of this process involved taking these veterans to the range," said the posting on SOFREP.com.

WFAA-TV in Dallas-Fort Worth reported that the two men had taken Routh to the shooting range for the day to help him deal with his PTSD.

Routh was arraigned at the Lancaster municipal jail on Saturday on two counts of capital murder, a spokesman for the department of public safety said. The Erath County Sheriff's Office planned a news conference later on Sunday.

"It just comes as a shock and it's staggering to think that after all Chris has been through, that this is how he meets his end, because there are so many ways he could have been killed" in Iraq, Scott McEwen, who wrote the book with Kyle, told Reuters.

Kyle served four combat tours of duty in Iraq and elsewhere, and he won two Silver Stars and five Bronze Stars for bravery, according to his book.

After leaving the Navy, Kyle founded Craft International, a firm that provided combat and weapons training to military, police, corporate and civilian clients.

Kyle is the co-author of another book coming out in May titled "American Gun - A History of the U.S. in Ten Firearms."

In the wake of the slayings of 20 children and six adults at a school in Newtown, Connecticut in December, Kyle was interviewed in January about rising calls for curbing U.S. gun violence. He told the website guns.com he favored arming teachers who have been screened and trained and spoke against restrictions on gun owners.


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11 years 10 months ago #16576 by Sharkey
FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) — The Iraq War veteran charged with killing a former Navy SEAL sniper and his friend on a Texas shooting range had been taken to a mental hospital twice in the past four months.

Lancaster police records show 25-year-old Eddie Ray Routh was taken to a mental hospital in September after threatening to kill his family and then commit suicide. Routh told authorities then that he was a Marine veteran who was suffering from PTSD.

The Dallas Morning News reports that police records show Routh was taken back to the same mental hospital in mid-January after a woman called police and said she feared for Routh's safety.

Routh is charged with one count of capital murder and two counts of murder in Saturday's shooting deaths of Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield.

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11 years 10 months ago - 11 years 10 months ago #17096 by txlongshotb4
Hello everyone. I am sorry for my long absence. Life has kept me pretty busy for the past few months.

I did not know Chris Kyle in the sense that we hung out, drank beer, beat up nerds when we were kids-but this has saddened me the same. It sucks that a man who paid so much for our country has fallen to the hands of a man he was trying to help purely out of a mutual understanding of the scar that a war leaves on a man's sanity-but I won't sit here on my couch and cast stones at Eddie Ray South. PTSD is something that even the best minds in medicine are only beginning to understand-but we do know it can do terrible things to a man-make him a monster he never saw coming. I'm not trying to make an excuse for this-God, I wish this had never happened.

Chris Kyle lived a different life than most of the rest of us...you just can't walk in those shoes without being driven by something far more presistant than the drum we all march to. I think I might mildly understand this concept. I was never a SEAL or Special Forces Or Delta Force or any of those tier one guys. The only common thread I share with Chris Kyle is sniper, but I think there might be enough in that to understand just a little about the driving force that puts a man into such a service. I think it's about self-perserverance...to decide at some point in your life that you just have to do something, and nevermind how bad the road that gets you there is going to suck, because if you don't give it everything you've got, you'll regret it for the rest of your life...because it's a calling. It's the reason that soldiers show up for sniper school knowing full well that the next month is going to be hell, but smile because they finally got there-I would imagine it's no different for BUDS/SEAL school...except that it's a hell of a lot longer, and it sucks far worse than sniper school.

But then one day the cadre informs you that you get to graduate, and so you go to your assigned unit-and you do what it is that you do. It scares the hell out of you, but you do it. You are a part of something so much bigger than yourself that it pretty much consumes you. You make friends with the other tormented souls that made it to the same place and you temper that freindship with something that is second to none when it comes to tempering a friendship-combat...And despite your worst days that fordge themselves into your dreams at night like steel in a cruciple-you cherish those bonds you have built with your fellow warriors through sweat and blood and fear and a mutual need to survive until tomorrow...and in those days you spend not knowing if tomorrow is coming for you, you feel more alive than you ever will or ever have. You never get to understand it, but you know it is absolute.

Chris Kyle's funerl procession started in Midland Texas and ended at his final resting place in Austin Texas. Thousands of supporters-from uniformed military personell to respectful and thankful citizens made their ways to the roadsides and highway bridges to offer salutes and hands over their hearts as the procession passed. Over a hundred SEALS-both active and retired-pounded their tridents into the lid of Chris's casket before they returned his body to the Earth. The Cowboy's stadium in Arlington Texas hosted a memorial service that was attended by thousands that same day...America paid tribute to a man who dedicated everything he had to give to us.

I am sad for him...I have no doubt, he would've rather still been here. I am also sad for his family-it's tough being a military family, but I am sure it's VERY tough being a SEAL's family...to endure all of that only to loose your loved one once it's finally over only adds to the terrible irony of the whole situation. I am also sad for the tactical professional community, who has just lost one of the greatest teachers it ever had...so much could have been gained from just what Chris has forgotten.

But I'm going to try my best to put all of those things aside for Chris. I'm going to force myself to remember that this was a man who felt a fire inside himself that he couldn't just ignore, and he persevered. I'm going to remember that Chris Kyle decided to become something that so few of us have ever known anything about that we cannot possibly understand what it would be like to have that fire-let alone harness it and ride the flames. I'm going to not focus on the tragedy that took Chris Kyle away from us...I am going to remember the glory that he lived...and not one of us can ever deny that Chris Kyle's life should go down in the history books and what defines glory.



Chris,
I'd say rest in Peace-but I know better. I imagine you on the best 1,000 meter rifle range ever seen, spotting for Carlos Hathcock and training the angels to be more effective against the forces of evil-I imagine you amongst the ranks with Saint Micheal, ready to defend all of mankind against evil, and pleased as pie about the added responsibility-eager for the battle-and it makes me sleep easy tonight, sniper-mission accomplished on this front,SEAL- carry on...
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11 years 10 months ago #17122 by Akai
You have put into words what I have been wanting to say: Thank you for being able to do this:

txlongshotb4 wrote: Hello everyone. I am sorry for my long absence. Life has kept me pretty busy for the past few months.

I did not know Chris Kyle in the sense that we hung out, drank beer, beat up nerds when we were kids-but this has saddened me the same. It sucks that a man who paid so much for our country has fallen to the hands of a man he was trying to help purely out of a mutual understanding of the scar that a war leaves on a man's sanity-but I won't sit here on my couch and cast stones at Eddie Ray South. PTSD is something that even the best minds in medicine are only beginning to understand-but we do know it can do terrible things to a man-make him a monster he never saw coming. I'm not trying to make an excuse for this-God, I wish this had never happened.

Chris Kyle lived a different life than most of the rest of us...you just can't walk in those shoes without being driven by something far more presistant than the drum we all march to. I think I might mildly understand this concept. I was never a SEAL or Special Forces Or Delta Force or any of those tier one guys. The only common thread I share with Chris Kyle is sniper, but I think there might be enough in that to understand just a little about the driving force that puts a man into such a service. I think it's about self-perserverance...to decide at some point in your life that you just have to do something, and nevermind how bad the road that gets you there is going to suck, because if you don't give it everything you've got, you'll regret it for the rest of your life...because it's a calling. It's the reason that soldiers show up for sniper school knowing full well that the next month is going to be hell, but smile because they finally got there-I would imagine it's no different for BUDS/SEAL school...except that it's a hell of a lot longer, and it sucks far worse than sniper school.

But then one day the cadre informs you that you get to graduate, and so you go to your assigned unit-and you do what it is that you do. It scares the hell out of you, but you do it. You are a part of something so much bigger than yourself that it pretty much consumes you. You make friends with the other tormented souls that made it to the same place and you temper that freindship with something that is second to none when it comes to tempering a friendship-combat...And despite your worst days that fordge themselves into your dreams at night like steel in a cruciple-you cherish those bonds you have built with your fellow warriors through sweat and blood and fear and a mutual need to survive until tomorrow...and in those days you spend not knowing if tomorrow is coming for you, you feel more alive than you ever will or ever have. You never get to understand it, but you know it is absolute.

Chris Kyle's funerl procession started in Midland Texas and ended at his final resting place in Austin Texas. Thousands of supporters-from uniformed military personell to respectful and thankful citizens made their ways to the roadsides and highway bridges to offer salutes and hands over their hearts as the procession passed. Over a hundred SEALS-both active and retired-pounded their tridents into the lid of Chris's casket before they returned his body to the Earth. The Cowboy's stadium in Arlington Texas hosted a memorial service that was attended by thousands that same day...America paid tribute to a man who dedicated everything he had to give to us.

I am sad for him...I have no doubt, he would've rather still been here. I am also sad for his family-it's tough being a military family, but I am sure it's VERY tough being a SEAL's family...to endure all of that only to loose your loved one once it's finally over only adds to the terrible irony of the whole situation. I am also sad for the tactical professional community, who has just lost one of the greatest teachers it ever had...so much could have been gained from just what Chris has forgotten.

But I'm going to try my best to put all of those things aside for Chris. I'm going to force myself to remember that this was a man who felt a fire inside himself that he couldn't just ignore, and he persevered. I'm going to remember that Chris Kyle decided to become something that so few of us have ever known anything about that we cannot possibly understand what it would be like to have that fire-let alone harness it and ride the flames. I'm going to not focus on the tragedy that took Chris Kyle away from us...I am going to remember the glory that he lived...and not one of us can ever deny that Chris Kyle's life should go down in the history books and what defines glory.



Chris,
I'd say rest in Peace-but I know better. I imagine you on the best 1,000 meter rifle range ever seen, spotting for Carlos Hathcock and training the angels to be more effective against the forces of evil-I imagine you amongst the ranks with Saint Micheal, ready to defend all of mankind against evil, and pleased as pie about the added responsibility-eager for the battle-and it makes me sleep easy tonight, sniper-mission accomplished on this front,SEAL- carry on...

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