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10 years 6 months ago #40637 by OleCowboy
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Blue as a color may not be the best choice. It affects the eyes and brain, increases the levels of melatonin which brings on sleep. Also depending upon the actual color of blue it can become fuzzy when viewed.

I would not use Blue as its too different and may well not be welcomed by the shooting community.

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10 years 6 months ago - 10 years 6 months ago #40641 by txlongshotb4
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I need to check this against patents of other companies and make sure I am not getting too close to the proverbial fire, but this is the reticle pattern I have come up with after about a dozen revisions. I have two versions here, and I would like to hear from the court of public opinion which one is more preferred.




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In the first version, all of the stadia lines in the inner cross hair are 1 moa wide and on the outer stadia they are 2 moa wide. he center dot is 1 moa, and all of the other dots are 2 moa. The dots all horizontal stadia lines are spaced at 5 moa from center to center, so that from center there are measured increments for 5,10,15,20 and 5 moa for wind hold off and moving target leads. On the vertical axis, the tick marks are spaced at 2 moa from center to center. The alternation fo short (3 moa) and long (5 moa) ticks and the 1 moa dot pattern is so that the shooter can easily reference the hold over needed without having to count down from the center. There are a total of 60 moa below center line for hold over, and 20 moa above center line for either angle fire, or hold under when zeroed at long range. The successive horizontal stadia lines are positioned every 10 moa down the vertical axis. These are positioned to aid in hold offs where both long range and wind is present, so that the shooter is not holding off out in the middle of nowhere.



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The second version is the same as the first but with the addition of a row of 1 moa dots alternating the pattern as shown. These dots are also indexed at 5,10,15,20 and 25 MOA on their horizontal axis. They are placed at 10 moa spacing down the vertical axis staggered off of the pattern in version 1. When used in conjunction with the larger 2 moa dots, there is 5 moa spacing between the centers of all dots on the vertical axis.

This is the thing I am undecided about, and I would like feed back about. I placed the row of smaller dots because 10 moa is a lot of area at long range. At 600 meters it is 60 inches, and that is a large margin for error. The smaller dots bring this area down to a more manageable area, but they also add clutter to an already complicated reticle. It is a toss up for me....what are your thoughts?
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10 years 6 months ago #40646 by Siscowet
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I like the second as it seems more open, but either is going to take a fair amount of training and practice to get used to.
Below is the reticle on my 3x9 Burris Fulfield E1 which I like a lot. The scope comes with a list of the different amounts each dot will affect a different caliber. I taped the one for 308 on my rifle stock. A couple of Russian scopes for Dragunov's I have seen use a similar
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10 years 6 months ago #40648 by Lizardette
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I like the first one, but I see what you mean about 10 moa being a lot of space. Have you thought about staggering the horizontal lines that are below the center at 5 moa vertically?

That is, the first line on say the left side is 5 moa down from the center, and the first line on the right is 10 moa down. There would still be 10 moa between lines on each side, but it would give a rough 5 moa reference point between lines without adding clutter.

Just a thought. Either way I prefer the first one.

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10 years 6 months ago #40674 by Libertarian623
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Long shot- I like the second reticle reminds me of a Horus. As far as the color there has got to be data to support different colors for different reasons. Any way you could pulse the color through the reticle ( like fading in and out). If the intensity was really low and you where concentrating of the target, I think a pulsing reticle may just ghost in and out. If you put it at 15 PPM it would give ample time to shot. Just throwing ideas around.

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10 years 6 months ago #40687 by Siscowet
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As I only use an illuminated reticle in low light conditions, a blue one would only work if it didn't affect my night vision. I don't really know the effect of blue light on the rods and cones in the eye, I do know that red doesn't effect my night vision. I usually depend on the red beam on my headlamp to watch for coyotes when I take my dogs out at night.

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10 years 5 months ago #41568 by magi
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Siscowet wrote: I tend to only use illuminated reticles when I need to.. Low light levels, or a background that blends with the crosshairs. They really don't need to be that bright, just enough to differentiate from the target's color or shading, but not enough to overwhelm the retina. Because of my type of use, I really don't need an illuminated reticle that is visible in bright daylight. One that is not visible through the other end of the scope would be nice as well, if possible.


Yup^^^
I like ... Valkyrie... Cool word....
I believe bluelight would have a greater negative effect on your night vision..... I'm sure there's lots of studies on this.....
Very interesting conversation.... I wish you success,.... a cool scope idea I had a great price...

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10 years 5 months ago #41569 by NAMVET1970
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For the name I like Valkyrie, like it is ready for battle, for the reticle I think one like that Siscowet showed; an open x-mass tree style, that's what the long range shooters are using. As for the color, at night time there is a reason the U S Navy has RED lights in compartments just before sailors go outside on watch when it's dark out.
Good luck on your project. :twothumbs:

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10 years 5 months ago - 10 years 5 months ago #41576 by VTIT
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I like Valkyrie and X Ring both. If you are going to have two lines say one tactical and one target you might want both. You also may want to make sure you can get the domain name you want before you invest too much in the name though. Today so much of marketing and audience targeting is done on the web. Especially younger customers. You don't want to end up with a domain name of myxringopticsonline.com or myvalkyrieopticsonline.org for you domain names. Nobody would remember your website.


I like the second reticle better but would worry about how much of it you are going to illuminate. I like the smaller gradations for longer distances. But too much illumination would make it too busy and hard to concentrate on the target. I am ok with either green or red but probably would prefer red. Definitely a no on blue. I have a blue laser and that thing creates persistence of vision like crazy. Granted it is above the legal limit for lasers, but you can still see it long after you look away.
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10 years 5 months ago #41588 by OleCowboy
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VTIT wrote: I like Valkyrie and X Ring both. If you are going to have two lines say one tactical and one target you might want both. You also may want to make sure you can get the domain name you want before you invest too much in the name though. Today so much of marketing and audience targeting is done on the web. Especially younger customers. You don't want to end up with a domain name of myxringopticsonline.com or myvalkyrieopticsonline.org for you domain names. Nobody would remember your website.


I like the second reticle better but would worry about how much of it you are going to illuminate. I like the smaller gradations for longer distances. But too much illumination would make it too busy and hard to concentrate on the target. I am ok with either green or red but probably would prefer red. Definitely a no on blue. I have a blue laser and that thing creates persistence of vision like crazy. Granted it is above the legal limit for lasers, but you can still see it long after you look away.


Also do a Trademark search (free) to see if someone already has it....

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