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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #13731 by Turbo V6 Camaro
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i just put a AR-10A 16" on layway with m308 nikon BDC scope

I think i already found the free float rail I want

just wanted to say hi :)

wasn't shure abotu hte 16 wonding if i should do a SS or longer barrel ?
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11 years 11 months ago #13746 by Sharkey
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Hello and Welcome Turbo,

You've come to the right place for info and you'd be hard pressed to ask something our techinicians can't answer or find. We look forward to seeing your posts and photos.

As for the barrel, I would think the length would really depend on you and what you hope to do with it.

Different barrels for different applications I believe.

Mine has the stock 20" on it since I don't hunt long range, (or actually at all) and felt no need to put a barrel on it that could make 1000 yard shots since up here in RI, they really don't exist.

It might help the guys help you a bit if you described what you were hoping to DO with the rifle and then I'm sure they can help you come up with whatever is best suited for you needs.

Glad to have you aboard and good luck with your soon to be new arrival...
Sharkey
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11 years 11 months ago #13758 by Turbo V6 Camaro
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Sharkey wrote: Hello and Welcome Turbo,

You've come to the right place for info and you'd be hard pressed to ask something our techinicians can't answer or find. We look forward to seeing your posts and photos.

As for the barrel, I would think the length would really depend on you and what you hope to do with it.

Different barrels for different applications I believe.

Mine has the stock 20" on it since I don't hunt long range, (or actually at all) and felt no need to put a barrel on it that could make 1000 yard shots since up here in RI, they really don't exist.

It might help the guys help you a bit if you described what you were hoping to DO with the rifle and then I'm sure they can help you come up with whatever is best suited for you needs.

Glad to have you aboard and good luck with your soon to be new arrival...
Sharkey


thanks,

I would love to do 1000 yard shots, but I think it would be so i could say that I did, LOL. around here it seems most ranges can go 500-600 yards. that nikon scope is setup for 800 (depends on the ammo)

I would use it for hunting, and target practice mostly. I know it's usually cheaper to buy it right the first time. I would hate to get out there and fine out to shoot 500-600 that I should have got this (insert name) barrel instead.

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11 years 11 months ago #13759 by 13fcolt
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Welcome!
Good choice on weapon. By AR-10'A' did you get the newer version that takes the SR25 pattern mags? I have yet to see one of those. I don't doubt armalites quality, but I am interested in hearing about the reliability of the new stuff.
While I've only seen videos on youtube, It is possible to reach 1000 with a 16" barrel. A longer barrel only provides more velocity, not necessarily any gain in accuracy. In fact sorter barrels have more favorable harmonics and can potentially out shoot a longer barrel of same quality, all other things being equal.
For what you want out of it, I think you will be served well with your choice.
I tend to urge folks away from BDC scopes, unless adjustable, I have not seen a BDC that matched a rifle ammo combination close enough for my liking. Your results may differ.
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11 years 11 months ago #13761 by Turbo V6 Camaro
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13fcolt wrote: Welcome!
Good choice on weapon. By AR-10'A' did you get the newer version that takes the SR25 pattern mags? I have yet to see one of those. I don't doubt armalites quality, but I am interested in hearing about the reliability of the new stuff.
While I've only seen videos on youtube, It is possible to reach 1000 with a 16" barrel. A longer barrel only provides more velocity, not necessarily any gain in accuracy. In fact sorter barrels have more favorable harmonics and can potentially out shoot a longer barrel of same quality, all other things being equal.
For what you want out of it, I think you will be served well with your choice.
I tend to urge folks away from BDC scopes, unless adjustable, I have not seen a BDC that matched a rifle ammo combination close enough for my liking. Your results may differ.


thanks for the input, the nikon BDC scope, it is calibrated for the 165gr match ammo i think it was, but they offer software (free) that lets you put in your ammo, zero, and rifle information, it then tells you the affective distance of all dots for the scope (by scope model not a general thing), it even tells you the distance for all mag levels, so you can use the scope where you want use it.

obviously i haven't used it yet but reviews i have seen say it is very accurate.
www.nikonhunting.com/SpotOnRegistration/

I would like to have a FFP scope but they are 2x the cost right now.

as far as AR-10A, I assume its the new model that takes the 3rd party mags, I am going to verify now that you say something I thought ar-10A was the new stuff and ar-10B was the "old" stuff

i guess i need to email the serial number to armalite and get exactly what i have,

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11 years 11 months ago #13762 by 13fcolt
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Amarlaite adds so many letters to the end of each model number it can be quite a challenge to know what exactly someone has. there have been a couple 'deciphering' threads in the past about it. you know "I got a new AR-10A4BCNGBNMFLMNOP carbine but I can't tell what <part> I need". LOL

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11 years 11 months ago #13764 by Turbo V6 Camaro
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13fcolt wrote: Amarlaite adds so many letters to the end of each model number it can be quite a challenge to know what exactly someone has. there have been a couple 'deciphering' threads in the past about it. you know "I got a new AR-10A4BCNGBNMFLMNOP carbine but I can't tell what <part> I need". LOL

yeah i know, i'm not new to guns, I had shot guns and 22lr growing up, shot the M16 in the Air force (only once every 2 years though)

so i would say I'm new to the platform, specially the AR-10 and they make confusing

I would say the "FLMNOP" above means the gun will only fire in Florida if standing on your head, any other state the gun will not fire if you stand on your head. :P

I'm going to call the shop and see what I'm getting, cause they had marked for $1389. witch is odd since armalight say $1557 is the going rate....

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11 years 11 months ago #13765 by Turbo V6 Camaro
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13fcolt wrote: Welcome!
Good choice on weapon. By AR-10'A' did you get the newer version that takes the SR25 pattern mags? I have yet to see one of those. I don't doubt armalites quality, but I am interested in hearing about the reliability of the new stuff.
While I've only seen videos on youtube, It is possible to reach 1000 with a 16" barrel. A longer barrel only provides more velocity, not necessarily any gain in accuracy. In fact sorter barrels have more favorable harmonics and can potentially out shoot a longer barrel of same quality, all other things being equal.
For what you want out of it, I think you will be served well with your choice.
I tend to urge folks away from BDC scopes, unless adjustable, I have not seen a BDC that matched a rifle ammo combination close enough for my liking. Your results may differ.


I'm reading on here (other threads) chrome lined is less accurate, would i be better off get a stainless steal barrel 16 or 20 inch

if i can shoot good groups at 5-600 yards i think that will make me happy.......for a minute (like diamonds for the ladies lol). I also like the look of the SS barrels more

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11 years 11 months ago #13766 by 13fcolt
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Chrome lining does tend to be less accurate due to the chrome not depositing evenly on the surface of the bore. I have seen a few extreme cases (not AR10) where the bore had a reverse taper caused by sloppy hard chroming, making life difficult. A chrome bore can sometimes be lapped into consistency, but this is usually much more work and cost than just buying a good barrel. A few special tools required to do it right.
SO, yes, SS should be expected to out perform chrome lined for accuracy.

you could split the difference and get a custom 18" barrel cut. just a thought...

500-600 yards is totally doable with a 16" tube, and much easier to lug around. If you take it hunting, you will not regret the 16. The only place the extra 4" will really be appreciated is if you really want to spend time on going for 1000. The added FPS will make it easier to keep your bullets over transonic and help keep your trajectory flatter, so you're not as likely to run out of elevation. I would not venture here unless you were also rolling your own ammo for the task. It can be done with some (expensive) factory ammo, but never as well as ammo tailored to your weapon. Either way you want to go, we are here to help.
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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #13768 by Turbo V6 Camaro
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13fcolt wrote: Chrome lining does tend to be less accurate due to the chrome not depositing evenly on the surface of the bore. I have seen a few extreme cases (not AR10) where the bore had a reverse taper caused by sloppy hard chroming, making life difficult. A chrome bore can sometimes be lapped into consistency, but this is usually much more work and cost than just buying a good barrel. A few special tools required to do it right.
SO, yes, SS should be expected to out perform chrome lined for accuracy.

you could split the difference and get a custom 18" barrel cut. just a thought...

500-600 yards is totally doable with a 16" tube, and much easier to lug around. If you take it hunting, you will not regret the 16. The only place the extra 4" will really be appreciated is if you really want to spend time on going for 1000. The added FPS will make it easier to keep your bullets over transonic and help keep your trajectory flatter, so you're not as likely to run out of elevation. I would not venture here unless you were also rolling your own ammo for the task. It can be done with some (expensive) factory ammo, but never as well as ammo tailored to your weapon. Either way you want to go, we are here to help.


thanks i'm not sure ifi should try and change the order with the shop or just order a barrel from armalite, i';ll have to talk to them

do you know a chart that compairs the FPS in different barrels? they all seem to rate on 24 inch

also I DO want to get into reloading, thats another thread i think though
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