I just purchase a new Armalite AR-10 10A4CBF. I mounted a Leupold VariX-II scope on it, took it to the range, bore-sighted it at 25 yards, and tried three rounds. All three rounds were all over the place (low 6" and left 6"; low 3" and centered; and high 3" and left "4"). I thought it might be the trigger and my pull (the factory trigger is a little stiff). I had the trigger modified to about 4 pounds (very nice now ) and tried another set of rounds at 25 yards. I got the same response... rounds all over the place. I started suspecting it might be the scope (it was a hand-me-down and I'm not sure of its history). I just changed out the scope for a red-dot and aligned the bore-sighter with the red dot at 25 yards tonight. I haven't had a chance to take it to the range to check it out yet.
What kind of realistic accuracy should I expect at 100 yards? Is there a preferred brand of ammo to use for it? I've been using Winchester 7.62mm 147 grain full metal jackets. Is there a break-in period where I need to condition the barrel with a minimum number of rounds first?
150 rnds is whats usually recommended to properly break in a barrel fired single shot for the first 50 rnds cleaning barrel with patch after every round. then 50-100rnds in groups of three cleaning barrel with patch after 3rnds each time then from 100-150 in groups of 5 cleaning barrel again after each group. what this does is properly fill in all the machined marks inside of barrel by properly fouling (coating) the imperfections increasing accuracy. its a pain in the ass but well worth it
I didn't think you had to break in the chrome lined bores? 8.4 in the manual gives break in procedures for match barrels only. Mine is a 20 inch flat top and if I do it right I get one ragged hole at 25 yards, even the first group! I wouldn't think they should be that different as I've heard nothing but good things about the accuracy of Armalite carbines. I don't have enough experience to tell you what to look for but it sounds like somethings up with your rifle.
For match barrels its a must but it is just good practice to break in all rifle barrels
In such away again to fill in any machine (tooling) marks its also good because shooting your first 150
Rnds slowly in your Ar 10 helps tempering of the metals and wearing income your parts correctly and evenly on your bolt carrier, bolt face' and so on which definately increases your function and reliabilty.......
I appreciate the feedback. I did go slow between rounds when I did my initial shots (several minutes between shots) but I didn't clean after every round.
I haven't had a chance to get back out to the range (I will try this afternoon) to see if the red dot performs better than the VariX-II scope. I'd like to see a fairly small group at 25 yards. I'll let everyone know how it went.
What kind of groups should I expect at 25 yards when first breaking it in? I have a bi-pod mounted on it so it's fairly stable. The modified trigger is very sweet and gives a much more consistent release.
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We just got back from the range. We had limited time on the range but managed to put ten rounds downrange at 25 yards with some cool-down periods. I shot 5 (3 and 2) and my daughter shot 5 (3 and 2). All ten rounds were within a little bigger than a quarter size. We shot from a sandbag so it was very stable. The trigger was excellent and consistent. The red-dot performed perfectly.
This is a good thing and a bad thing, though. On the good side, the rifle is performing as good as I'd hoped. I will get more time in the future and do a proper sight-alignment at increasing distances to get it on target at 200 yards. On the bad side, though, apparently I have inherited a deficient VariX-II scope
WELCOME TO THE GROUP!!! those bullets might be a little to light. Mine and some other peoples like the winchester ballistic silver tip 168 or 165grn. also try some hornady. you should expect 2 inch groups at 100 tops...i would put my money on 1 inch groups.
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