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10 years 1 month ago #43188 by jtallen83
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Excellent price on the mags :thumbs: you'll be hard pressed to ever wear them out.

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10 years 1 month ago #43189 by ARMALITE TR
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funfred wrote: FWIW, Armalite voids lifetime warranties if handloads or reloads are fired.

Unless there's a catastrophic failure, how would they know?



We have our ways........... :evil:

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10 years 1 month ago #43190 by funfred
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:lol:

I'm not discounting the possibility as I only have an academic familiarity with reloading, but, seriously?!?

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10 years 1 month ago #43191 by Siscowet
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ARMALITE TR wrote:

funfred wrote: FWIW, Armalite voids lifetime warranties if handloads or reloads are fired.

Unless there's a catastrophic failure, how would they know?



We have our ways........... :evil:

As M118LR is far hotter than anything I would load, this makes little sense to me, unless the chambers show abuse. This is enough to send me looking at the competition as who can afford nothing but factory, plus factory is less accurate.

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10 years 1 month ago #43192 by Siscowet
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dickn52 wrote: I am the proud owner of 6 20rd mags for my b model now. Paid 24.95 each for them. Yes they are solid and durable looking. Look like my old M14 mags from Vietnam days. They are heavy, but I no longer go on 5 day walks in the woods (you 75th guys know what I mean I think.) so weight won't be the issue here. Armalite owes me nothing at this time. They didn't sell this to me, my LGS did and he simply blew it when he called his distributor. I'll have it out with him later. He still holds some of my money from a former sale of a Shiloh Sharps. Thanks to everyone for your help and advice. I'm off to the range with some of my reloads this weekend. These were made up for a Tikka, and they fit my mags so I'm good to go. :wave:

They look like the old M14 mags because that was the basis for their design, with improvements for reliability.

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10 years 1 month ago - 10 years 1 month ago #43193 by silver78
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I'm not saying that Armalite "owes" you anything but as I stated above there is no specific "B" designation on the older style rifles. Only the "A" models have a specific designation. I think this is a labeling weakness that started at the factory and I think you will not be the last person who has this problem if they don't change their labeling specification.

Here - let me put it a little differently for the Armalite factory guy:

Armalite - how do you want to treat your customers - like the Armalite I remember - or like DPMS? The choice is yours. Man up and offer this guy a mag discount.

My 2 cents.

Edited to add - I do not know the buyer and I have owned an Armalite AR-10 B model for over a decade.
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10 years 1 month ago #43195 by dickn52
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Sorry. Typing things and having them read is hard to do sometimes. What I meant was that I don't want or think Armalite needs to do anything for me at this stage. The rifle is everything I thought it would be, and some. The mags will work out ok, and they are indeed a one time purchase I hope. I now have 6 20's and the 1 10 that cam with it. That should be enough to keep my fingers working out. As for the reloading thing, if someone decides that a warranty (that will never be used) needs to be voided, then ok. But at the cost of factory ammo which is not as good as the ammo I can produce, well then I may have to chance it. Let's face it. Reloaders for years have built better ammunition specific to a weapon than can be bought off a shelf someplace. I have been building loads for competitions for years without a burp. I'll take my chances if necessary. Thanks to everyone for all your help and encouragement.
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10 years 1 month ago #43197 by Siscowet
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dickn52 wrote: Sorry. Typing things and having them read is hard to do sometimes. What I meant was that I don't want or think Armalite needs to do anything for me at this stage. The rifle is everything I thought it would be, and some. The mags will work out ok, and they are indeed a one time purchase I hope. I now have 6 20's and the 1 10 that cam with it. That should be enough to keep my fingers working out. As for the reloading thing, if someone decides that a warranty (that will never be used) needs to be voided, then ok. But at the cost of factory ammo which is not as good as the ammo I can produce, well then I may have to chance it. Let's face it. Reloaders for years have built better ammunition specific to a weapon than can be bought off a shelf someplace. I have been building loads for competitions for years without a burp. I'll take my chances if necessary. Thanks to everyone for all your help and encouragement.

:I-agree: :twothumbs: :twothumbs:

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10 years 4 weeks ago #43199 by silver78
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Well if you are a re-loader I have heard (but have not confirmed)that the mag design of the B models will accept a slightly longer OAL than the A design. So perhaps ending up with the B model might even turn out to be better than you originally thought.

Regarding the no warranty on rifles using hand loads. I would guess that Armalite is simply protecting themselves from someone who's loading too hot. I would also guess that if you happen to properly load - esp. if you load in the light side, your warranty will survive. But it's going to be at their discretion.

Unrelated question for the OP - Why did you pick Bartlein Barrels as your logo?

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10 years 4 weeks ago #43200 by dickn52
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I load within spec. But found a reloading section on the Armalite site, so confused that they sell a powder dispenser for reloading knowing that to do so could void their own warranty. But I really don't think it's going to be an issue. As for the Bartlein barrel logo? I use his barrels a lot in small bore, and like the heck out of them. I just find they are true and accurate. IF I ever decided to rebarrel this AR, I would probably ask if they could help me. But until I actually shoot this one out... BTW, his barrels have been used in competitions all over the world with a great track record.

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