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Accuracy question...
- Lizardette
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10 years 11 months ago #32839
by Lizardette
Replied by Lizardette on topic Accuracy question...
I have lots of experience putting multiple magazines into a single group at 100 yards. Let me tell you, anybody with an "accurate" gun and good ammunition can put 3 rounds into an inch or less. I don't consider that valid for anything but a hunting rifle. I like seeing five shot groups, but I'm not really impressed until someone shows me a group of 10+ shots.
Like this:
That's a standard NRA 200 yard target. I had it set up at 100 yards. That IS my M1C and I did use it to produce that group - using the rather wimpy (by comparison) 2.2x M84 telescope. I waited a second or two after reacquiring my target to send the next one down range. I waited in between clips just long enough to load up 8 more rounds and get them into the rifle.
That is actually a 40 shot group. The majority of it falls inside 2 inches. I'm very happy with that, mostly because the group didn't open up much at all as I went on. Also, I did no accurizing work to the rifle before shooting this group.
A more direct comparison though, would be this:
That's what my DPMS LR 308 will do with M118 Special Ball. I loaded five rounds at a time, spaced much like I did with the M1C. It's a group of 20 shots. Some discussion was going on in another forum about exactly how accurate M118 Special Ball was. So, that's where that came from. For reference, that's an 8 inch Shoot-N-See that was placed at 100 yards.
My DPMS will do better than that, with handloads and going slower on the trigger. In fact, it will produce groups near half that size. So, I'd be very happy with a group that size for that many shots.
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That's a standard NRA 200 yard target. I had it set up at 100 yards. That IS my M1C and I did use it to produce that group - using the rather wimpy (by comparison) 2.2x M84 telescope. I waited a second or two after reacquiring my target to send the next one down range. I waited in between clips just long enough to load up 8 more rounds and get them into the rifle.
That is actually a 40 shot group. The majority of it falls inside 2 inches. I'm very happy with that, mostly because the group didn't open up much at all as I went on. Also, I did no accurizing work to the rifle before shooting this group.
A more direct comparison though, would be this:
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That's what my DPMS LR 308 will do with M118 Special Ball. I loaded five rounds at a time, spaced much like I did with the M1C. It's a group of 20 shots. Some discussion was going on in another forum about exactly how accurate M118 Special Ball was. So, that's where that came from. For reference, that's an 8 inch Shoot-N-See that was placed at 100 yards.
My DPMS will do better than that, with handloads and going slower on the trigger. In fact, it will produce groups near half that size. So, I'd be very happy with a group that size for that many shots.
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