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10 years 7 months ago - 10 years 7 months ago #38456 by OleCowboy
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Vets are dying from being unable to get an appointment at the VA, but this traitor, gay, transgender gets first class treatment.

So he wants to live as a woman, fine, then lets ship him off to Huntsville Texas state prison, that is ROUGH territory, its all men. Lets dress him up in a skirt with a zipper in the back and we don't even need to assign him a cell, they will pass him around from cell block to cell block, he ought to have fun...



Pentagon OKs Manning Transfer For Gender Treatment
by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
May 14, 201412:52 AM ET
PVt. Chelsea Manning, formerly named Bradley, was convicted last year of sending classified documents to anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks. In this 2010 photo, Manning was dressed as a woman. The soldier has asked for hormone therapy and to be able to live as a woman.i
PVt. Chelsea Manning, formerly named Bradley, was convicted last year of sending classified documents to anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks. In this 2010 photo, Manning was dressed as a woman. The soldier has asked for hormone therapy and to be able to live as a woman.

U.S. Army handout/Reuters/Landov
In an unprecedented move, the Pentagon is trying to transfer convicted national security leaker Pvt. Chelsea Manning to a civilian prison so she can get treatment for her gender disorder, defense officials said.

Manning, formerly named Bradley, was convicted of sending classified documents to anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks. The soldier has asked for hormone therapy and to be able to live as a woman.

The request was the first ever made by a transgender military inmate and set up a dilemma for the Defense Department: How to treat a soldier for a diagnosed disorder without violating long-standing military policy. Transgenders are not allowed to serve in the U.S. military and the Defense Department does not provide such treatment, but Manning can't be discharged from the service while serving his 35-year prison sentence.

Some officials have said privately that keeping the soldier in a military prison and unable to have treatment could amount to cruel and unusual punishment.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel last month gave the Army approval to try to work out a transfer plan with the Federal Bureau of Prisons, which does provide such treatment, two Pentagon officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record.

"No decision to transfer Pvt. Manning to a civilian detention facility has been made, and any such decision will, of course, properly balance the soldier's medical needs with our obligation to ensure she remains behind bars," Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby said.

The two agencies are just starting discussions about prospects for a transfer, the two officials said.

The Army has a memorandum of agreement with the Bureau of Prisons for use of several hundred beds and has sent an average of 15 to 20 prisoners a year to civilian prisons. But circumstances are different in Manning's case. The Army normally transfers some prisoners to federal prisons after all military appeals have been exhausted and discharge from military service has been executed. Cases of national security interest are not normally approved for transfer from military custody to the federal prison system.

The former intelligence analyst was sentenced in August for six Espionage Act violations and 14 other offenses for giving WikiLeaks more than 700,000 secret military and U.S. State Department documents, along with battlefield video, while working in Iraq in 2009 and 2010. An Army general later upheld the convictions, clearing the way for an appeal at the Army Court of Criminal Appeals.

After the conviction, Manning announced the desire to live as a woman and to be called Chelsea, a name change that was approved last month by a Leavenworth County District Judge and that the military did not oppose.

The soldier has been diagnosed by military doctors multiple times — including last fall after arriving at the Fort Leavenworth, Kan., prison — with gender dysphoria, the sense of being a woman in a man's body.

By November, a military doctor there had approved a treatment plan, including hormone therapy, but it was sent higher up the chain of command for consideration, according to a complaint filed by Manning in March over the delay in getting treatment.

The plan the military was considering has not been publicly released, but Manning said in the complaint that she had specifically asked that the treatment "plan consider ... three types of treatment."

Those were "real life experience" — a regimen in which the person tries dressing and living as the sex they want to transition to (something not possible in the Leavenworth men's facility); hormone therapy, which changes some physical traits such as breast and hair growth; and sex reassignnment surgery. Manning has not been specific about possible surgery, but experts in transgender health say it can include any of a large number of procedures such as chest reconstruction, genital reconstruction and plastic surgery such as facial reconstruction.

Hagel said Sunday that the prohibition on transgender individuals serving in the armed forces "continually should be reviewed." He didn't indicate whether he believes the policy should be overturned but said "every qualified American who wants to serve our country should have an opportunity if they fit the qualifications and can do it." A transgender individual is someone who has acquired the physical characteristics of the opposite sex or presents himself or herself in a way that does not correspond with that person's sex at birth.
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10 years 7 months ago #38457 by Siscowet
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Gender disorder? WTF!

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10 years 7 months ago #38458 by Dabu
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:huh: I thought this topic was going to be about zombies.

But anyways, me personally, I will always identify a person by their DNA. If they have XY they are boys. If they have XX they are girls :) :thumbs:

I don't believe this Bradly kid is a traitor, nothing he released endangered the lives of any American anywhere. But since he did release classified info, he should of been dishonorably discharged and that's it.

The idea of putting him in a skirt and throwing him in a Texas prison would be hilarious :evil: . But that would be in direct violation of the 8th amendment. :naughty:

I don't go to church that often, but I always liked this one part of the book about judging others according to Luke 6:37: "Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"

But I love gay jokes. Because if a man can take a dick and like it, the same man can take a joke :laugh:
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10 years 7 months ago #38461 by OleCowboy
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I ref'd the Zombie based upon another thread.

I don't say this often: As a Priority 1 Combat disabled Veteran, supposedly I stand at the head of the line for treatment or so they say, I am supposed to get an appointment within 15 days for non-emergency...TRY 6 mo and longer.

I have been going to the VA since 1969 when I was operated on for combat injuries. I have never gone to the VA for anything other than combat injuries. More often than not I go see a civilian Doc to be treated since I cannot get even a reasonable appointment at the VA. The VA is a mess its was in '69 and it still is.

Whether or not this jerk endangered American lives is not known by us, I personally do not care whether he did or not, he is a TRAITOR and since I do not know if he endangered lives I will forego the DEATH PENALTY, that is all. This jerk is NOT a priority vet for treatment. A Vietnam veteran here in San Antonio just died (last week) as he was unable to to get cancer treatments that had been identified by the VA, the same VA I go to. So what is important to our govt is a gay-transgender traitor, we can PAY for that but not for honorable veterans...I think we have our priorities wrong in this country.

As for General Shinseki, he should be fired immediately if not sooner. I find it funny that my career spanned most of his and yet in spite of serving in some of the same units he was in I do not even remember the guy. I talked to some buddies, they say the same thing, barely knew he was the Commander. After reading his Bio I see just another hack staff officer who climbed the ranks mostly looking out for himself and the hell with any soldier who got in his way.
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10 years 7 months ago #38480 by Libertarian623
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It sucks when anyone slips through the machine, and doesn't get the medical care they need. To have it happen to a vet makes it worse for me. Hope they get the VA stuff sorted out soon. I have been in and out of VA hospitals for 25 years and they are not on par with there civilian counter parts. Until they are we shouldn't consider it a closed case. I would of thought that the hospital on Fort Sam would have had what was required to treat his case.
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10 years 7 months ago #38496 by Siscowet
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This is a serious problem, and one you think a Republican Congress would do something about. Unfortunately Congress refuses to give the VA system the money they need. Add to the the entrenched take care of self first bureaucracy at the VA system and you have a mess. Our veterans deserve better.
I called on the Minneapolis VA hospital for 24 years. There are good people trying to do a lot with what they have. They could do more if they were allowed to focus on their primary mission: Taking care of Veterans. They could also do more if they were adequately funded. Tell your Congressman to support an increase in VA funding, and to demand a total revamp of the VA Administration.
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10 years 7 months ago #38529 by MrMarty51
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An email will be sent to Steven Daines this night. My only congressional rep.

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