Range Firing Processes

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11 years 8 months ago #19731 by Sharkey
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I used to love the overland ranges I got to shoot sometimes with my 60. Target rich environment from 250 out to over 1000+. Pop-ups all over the place, usually in groups, trucks, jeeps, pretty much anything you'd ever want to rock a machine gun at...

Those were some fun times... :thumbs:

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11 years 8 months ago #19780 by Siscowet
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Without the benefit of military training, I tend to need to get some rounds off before I settle down and work for accuracy. As a budget measure, I usually get out a 7.62 AK or a 5.56 AR and pop some targets for a while at 100 meters. Then I bring out the AR 10 and concentrate on accuracy, since the good stuff for it is $1 or more a round. Rather than the 21 cents to 33 cents a round I used to pay for the little stuff. Now that that has gone up in price, it will be the Ruger 10/22, as long as my 22 ammo lasts, that I will use to let off steam.

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11 years 8 months ago #19865 by Turbo V6 Camaro
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range? i just blow up old beer cans in the back yard LOL

when i do go to the range i will be trying the longest shoot the range offers, I will start at 100 or 200 and work my way up if i can't figure it out on my own I will then ask for help, one to ahve an experance person shot my rifle (to make sure it is sound) then help me figure out what i'm doing wrong

the only issue with this is i shoot left handed and its hard to find someone that can help me in most cases.

i havn't been to a range in years, I just got my rifle so maybe this summer

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11 years 8 months ago #19867 by Siscowet
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Turbo V6 Camaro wrote: range? i just blow up old beer cans in the back yard LOL

when i do go to the range i will be trying the longest shoot the range offers, I will start at 100 or 200 and work my way up if i can't figure it out on my own I will then ask for help, one to ahve an experance person shot my rifle (to make sure it is sound) then help me figure out what i'm doing wrong

the only issue with this is i shoot left handed and its hard to find someone that can help me in most cases.
i havn't been to a range in years, I just got my rifle so maybe this summer

TV6C: I am a lefty myself. Be aware, a rifle zeroed for a right eye dominant person is not necessarily zeroed for a left eye dominant. I used to shoot with an FBI agent, and he would shoot my firearms and the shots would be consistently about 2 inches to the right of the bull when I had them zeroed for my eye. Same with my son.

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11 years 8 months ago #19868 by Turbo V6 Camaro
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yesi i know i was the only one that could fire my grandpas rifles :) :woohoo: :woohoo:

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11 years 8 months ago #19888 by LebbenB
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Both my son and wife are left handed shooters. And I've taught more than a few lefties to shoot. When it comes to stance and hand position, just remember everything for you is opposite from a rightie.

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11 years 8 months ago #19889 by VTIT
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Do any of you have cross dominant eyes? My son is right handed but he is left eye dominant. It isn't bad with a red dot sight because he can keep both eyes open but it's a :censored: PITA :banghead: with a scope and some iron sights.

We took a course together and the instructor helped him out some but I think unless you are in the same situation you don't understand the problem. It's even worse with a pistol. I am working with him on that but ammo is so scarce/expensive that we don't get to practice enough. Any hints would sure help.

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11 years 8 months ago - 11 years 8 months ago #19897 by Siscowet
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VTIT wrote: Do any of you have cross dominant eyes? My son is right handed but he is left eye dominant. It isn't bad with a red dot sight because he can keep both eyes open but it's a :censored: PITA :banghead: with a scope and some iron sights.

We took a course together and the instructor helped him out some but I think unless you are in the same situation you don't understand the problem. It's even worse with a pistol. I am working with him on that but ammo is so scarce/expensive that we don't get to practice enough. Any hints would sure help.

I am strong right handed and when younger I took a punch to the eye that permanently distorted the lens in my right eye. Fortunately my left eye was dominant and I had always shot a rifle left handed. I also swing a baseball bat left handed for that reason. Pistol shooting, I first taught my self to shoot with my right eye, and still do. Surprisingly it doesn't hurt my accuracy. Because of my dominant left eye I can also shoot left handed very easily. Another way is that taught by firearms instructor Massod Ayoob. In people with opposite dominant eye, dominant hand, he teaches a stance that lets you cross over and use your dominant eye. It works, and I have used it, but I no longer need to so I usually don't. You may want to look him up, I believe he has a blog, and ask him that question. Until then, get some dry fire caps and have your son work on developing a sight picture and stance that he feels comfortable with. If it works and is accurate, it doesn't really matter what it looks like, except to the purists. Training the eyes is tough if you decide to go that way, but it can be done.
I just did a Google search on shooting with a cross dominant eye, and there is a ton of information out there as well. Surprisingly Ayoob didn't have any.
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11 years 8 months ago #19899 by MrMarty51
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USATC,Fort Knox Kentucky,1971.
The range instructors told the left handers that they could shoot lefty if they wanted,but He also warned them about how hot the brass was that was coming off the ejector port of the AR.
I did not see one person firing lefty style,and there were several lefthanders in the bunch.The instructors did take time to help the left handers shoot right hand,one of them was Our Platoon leader,He did pass the range firing with some very respectable scores,so,it can be done with very good results.

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11 years 8 months ago #19903 by OleCowboy
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VTIT wrote: Do any of you have cross dominant eyes? My son is right handed but he is left eye dominant. It isn't bad with a red dot sight because he can keep both eyes open but it's a :censored: PITA :banghead: with a scope and some iron sights.

We took a course together and the instructor helped him out some but I think unless you are in the same situation you don't understand the problem. It's even worse with a pistol. I am working with him on that but ammo is so scarce/expensive that we don't get to practice enough. Any hints would sure help.

YES! And I can (or could) shoot Expert with 1911, M 16 off either shoulder. Best thing you can do is get him a BB gun put up some targets and let him shoot and shoot and shoot off both shoulders till he can nail the 10 ring. Its tough and if like me he has some depth perception issues, most will be overcome but his changes of becoming a pilot are slim and about none, even a navigator, I could not pass the depth perception portion of the test for helicopter or anything the Army and Air Force flies in spite of aceing the written tests. LOL I did pass the carrier landing portion of the Navy flight test but the part where they have two objects in a box and you have to line them up is what always tripped me up, so I was never a pilot...

If you work with him and using both sides he will do fine in life, just won't be a pilot...

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