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11 years 9 months ago #17902 by Dabu
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One of the worst days you could have is to be hit with a little piece of metal flying though the air faster than the speed of sound.

What's everyone's opinion on wearing armor?

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11 years 9 months ago #17905 by OleCowboy
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In Vietnam I wore it, flak jacket which was HEAVY, about an inch thick layers of nylon, did not stop bullets too much but did slow them down. I, unlike many also wore my steel pot. But that was just me, many, many did not wear either. And it paid dividends...

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11 years 9 months ago #17906 by LebbenB
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Dabu wrote: One of the worst days you could have is to be hit with a little piece of metal flying though the air faster than the speed of sound.

What's everyone's opinion on wearing armor?

If I have to leave the house wearing armor, either property values have really dropped in my neighborhood or something's gone seriously wrong with my OPLAN.

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11 years 9 months ago #17908 by OleCowboy
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Guess I was thinking in context of being a soldier. I know there are MANY over on the 'survival' forums that buy it and wear it. That said allow me to put on my survival, Chit Hit the Fan scenario. (NOTE: I have brought this up before and it does not seem to FAZE the survival crowd)

I am sitting on my deck with my AR 10 T, its a clear day and my visibility is over 10 miles from my deck onto my hill. Thru my spotting scope a see a few guys. Dressed to the hilt in camo, gear of all kinds and wearing ARMOR...but with no visible id of any kind...I swing my spotting scope to the far right after seeing the glint of metal. It a couple guys, got on jeans, looks like some GI surplus gear, no armor.

Wonder who my AR 10 is now aimed at?????

If you are out running around and look like you are a life member of the TactiKool Gear of the Month Club you are in my crosshairs...maybe because I have spent several years on survival forums and have watched them go from outdoors folks, x military, hunters, sportsmen to radical nut jobs, bragging about being a "Raider", gonna kill everything in sight and buying gear like it candy. Frankly they scare me, they are the loose cannons on deck and if things go bad you NEED to avoid them at all costs...

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11 years 9 months ago #17909 by Siscowet
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Most of them ignore the fact that if you stick your nose into a comparably armed and equipped foe consistently, you will eventually get the short end of the stick. It is simple odds. True survival would be avoiding a fight or injury at all costs, and you can run faster w/o armor. In a survival situation, without modern medical help, even a moderate injury is life threatening and to be avoided at all costs. You are right on this one Cowboy. Many of those guys are off the deep end.
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11 years 9 months ago #17910 by BUILDING MY SASS
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Most LEOs that I know say they had rather take the Bullet than deal with what the Armor is supposed to do...It may stop the bullet...but the damage to the body can be more Sever than the Bullet itself...as so I have been told.
but given the Tech of Bullets and the way of things...Who knows... :unsure:
To Each their own...If you feel you need it, Less being in LE...you may consider a Move.

BMS

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11 years 9 months ago #17917 by OleCowboy
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Siscowet wrote: Most of them ignore the fact that if you stick your nose into a comparably armed and equipped foe consistently, you will eventually get the short end of the stick. It is simple odds. True survival would be avoiding a fight or injury at all costs, and you can run faster w/o armor. In a survival situation, without modern medical help, even a moderate injury is life threatening and to be avoided at all costs. You are right on this one Cowboy. Many of those guys are off the deep end.

Sisco, you clearly GET IT!

I have been on forums since the late 70's and IMO the survival forums have truly brought out the very worst of the internet keyboard warriors and self appointed experts on ANY and ALL topics...

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11 years 9 months ago - 11 years 9 months ago #17921 by Dabu
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hahaha :laugh: Thanks for your opinion everyone.

I wore armor on my terrorist hunting vacations a couple years ago. I wore the MTV(I forget what it stands for) which was a full body armor vest that came with the funny looking "family jewels" kevlar protector and it made me look like a turtle. I also was issued the SPC which was a plate carrier. Less protective, but it made moving around easier just because it didn't have as much kevlar on it.

So I've heard that if you get hit in the plates, the plate shatters and it feels like you get kicked by king Leonidas from that 300 movie. My friend said that when he got hit by AK fire, it knocked him over, cracked a few ribs, knocked the wind out of him and it bruised up pretty bad.

And after being out of it for a while I kind of miss having a nice set. I got the best weapon, so why not have a nice set of armor?

I really hope I never have to get in another firefight, but if I do, I'd wear armor. I know it’s heavy and it’ll slow you down. But after a few 10 mile runs with armor and gas masks on and motivated Sgt Maj Schmuckatelli screaming the whole time…. The weight kind of doesn’t feel that heavy.

As for the survivalist thing, out in the woods and stuff, I don't think armor would be necessary at all. It would be kind of silly. Unless people are shooting at you.
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11 years 9 months ago #17924 by OleCowboy
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Dabu wrote: hahaha :laugh: Thanks for your opinion everyone.

I wore armor on my terrorist hunting vacations a couple years ago. I wore the MTV(I forget what it stands for) which was a full body armor vest that came with the funny looking "family jewels" kevlar protector and it made me look like a turtle. I also was issued the SPC which was a plate carrier. Less protective, but it made moving around easier just because it didn't have as much kevlar on it.

So I've heard that if you get hit in the plates, the plate shatters and it feels like you get kicked by king Leonidas from that 300 movie. My friend said that when he got hit by AK fire, it knocked him over, cracked a few ribs, knocked the wind out of him and it bruised up pretty bad.

And after being out of it for a while I kind of miss having a nice set. I got the best weapon, so why not have a nice set of armor?

I really hope I never have to get in another firefight, but if I do, I'd wear armor. I know it’s heavy and it’ll slow you down. But after a few 10 mile runs with armor and gas masks on and motivated Sgt Maj Schmuckatelli screaming the whole time…. The weight kind of doesn’t feel that heavy.

As for the survivalist thing, out in the woods and stuff, I don't think armor would be necessary at all. It would be kind of silly. Unless people are shooting at you.


And that is WHY we have a AR 10 T...

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11 years 9 months ago #17926 by Akai
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:I-agree:

LebbenB wrote:

Dabu wrote: One of the worst days you could have is to be hit with a little piece of metal flying though the air faster than the speed of sound.

What's everyone's opinion on wearing armor?

If I have to leave the house wearing armor, either property values have really dropped in my neighborhood or something's gone seriously wrong with my OPLAN.


And I'm going to get the high ground, put on my armor, give them what they have coming! armor won't help :evil: I just like to blow S#!* up :cowboy:

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