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11 years 10 months ago #17066 by Siscowet
Support for Armalite was created by Siscowet
At this time, we as supporters do not need to stress manufacturers any further than they already are for a number of reasons.
1 they are businessmen, not politicians. Their first goal needs to be to stay in business as a profitable, functioning company.
2. Give them time, to make the decisions as to what their policies are. Not easy to do when you have sudden backlogs and other demands on your company.
3. They are in a sensitive position, as the US government and state governments are among their largest single accounts and will remain so. They are steering through a minefield to navigate this issue. One companies stance isn't necessarily right for all companies.
4. Cyber and spam attacks by anti gun opponents and hackers in general are to be expected. Let us not make them effective by hitting the panic buttons. That plays into it. We need to stay disciplined in our support, and reasonable in our discussions.
5. We do not want to be a hindrance or part of the problem as companies work to deal with this rapidly evolving environment, so lets think about what we do or say before we do it.
Good luck Armalite, you make a great product.

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11 years 10 months ago #17067 by Siscowet
Replied by Siscowet on topic Support for Armalite
I just read Mark Westroms statement, entirely reasonable. :I-agree:

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11 years 10 months ago #17069 by 13fcolt
Replied by 13fcolt on topic Support for Armalite
While I don't agree with him 100%, I do understand his position and I stand by ArmaLite as much as they stand by me.

One of the problems is that Armalite has always drawn haters. They whine about mags, they whine about price, if it wasn't this it would be something else. The same people trashing them over this recent thing are the same that were pitching fits before they had this new excuse.

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11 years 10 months ago #17070 by Siscowet
Replied by Siscowet on topic Support for Armalite
I think it comes with the name. The name has good historical connotations to me, but it has always generated controversy since the trials versus the M14. Some people are drawn to that stuff like a moth to a flame. If it was called the "Mudslinger 10" probably wouldn't have near so much of this. They make a good product, I just want to see them negotiate this current environment so they can get back to doing what they do best.

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11 years 10 months ago #17074 by Akai
Replied by Akai on topic Support for Armalite
As far as I'm concerned the PRODUCT speaks for itself :twothumbs:

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11 years 10 months ago #17078 by jtallen83
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:I-agree:

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11 years 10 months ago #17079 by Sharkey
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Armalite is a big company and been around for a very long time. They need to walk a VERY tight rope to keep their employees EMPLOYED and still stand for what we ALL stand for and frankly, I vote for Jobs and just solid leadership that will work with us all without shooting themselves in the foot and needing to make lay-offs just to make some over-zealous mook happy by saying they won't sell to their largest customers.

Granted. It is very nice to see some of these companies making a stand however, I am quite confident when I "guess" that their gubmint contracts as well as markets within the states they are boycotting were not very big to begin with.

I could very well be wrong on this but I can't think of too many companies that will PLAN on making a statement that will cost them millions of dollars and potentially hundreds of jobs and revenue.

Armalite will ALWAYS be my "go to" company for my needs and I respect and appreciate their stance and gesture during these troubled times.

Sharkey

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11 years 10 months ago #17080 by VTIT
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I think Amalite's position as a company is well thought out and responsible. It keeps their company afloat and supports the 2nd amendment. Losing ANY manufacturer right now is not going to help anyone.

Above all, gun manufacturers right now are in a fight for their survival. If some of these crazy gun laws get passed they will be all but out of business. With the general economy the way it is no company can afford to just pick up roots and move to another state. This could cost a large company millions, MILLLLLLLLIONNNNNNS, of dollars and lost jobs.

True it may put pressure on the state to do something but most of the politicians worry about reelection and not the jobs in their district. As long as they can get elected that is all that matters.

I say GO ARMALITE! Good product and good leadership. Keep it up.

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11 years 10 months ago #17081 by Siscowet
Replied by Siscowet on topic Support for Armalite

VTIT wrote: I think Amalite's position as a company is well thought out and responsible. It keeps their company afloat and supports the 2nd amendment. Losing ANY manufacturer right now is not going to help anyone.

Above all, gun manufacturers right now are in a fight for their survival. If some of these crazy gun laws get passed they will be all but out of business. With the general economy the way it is no company can afford to just pick up roots and move to another state. This could cost a large company millions, MILLLLLLLLIONNNNNNS, of dollars and lost jobs.

True it may put pressure on the state to do something but most of the politicians worry about reelection and not the jobs in their district. As long as they can get elected that is all that matters.

I say GO ARMALITE! Good product and good leadership. Keep it up.

:I-agree: Well Said

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11 years 10 months ago #17083 by crux
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I've owned, enjoyed, and advocated Armalite rifles for a long time. On the one hand I want to be sympathetic to Armalite's position, and the selling of arms to all those private individuals who can lawfully purchase them. On the other hand there is nothing magical about being a current or former LEO that should distinguish their standing in terms of 2nd amendment rights. This exemption in the NY bill is part of a political movement to place Military and LEO on a footing of legal rights above and apart from other private citizens. Good a folk as many of those LEO/.mil people might be, it is immoral to support this double standard.

This is a critical time to stand up for civilian firearms ownership, and politicians are trying to buy off portions of the population for support of general reduction of civilian access to arms including protections for "hunting" weapons and protections for LEOs etc. I don't support the harassment companies have been receiving, but I also think the principled response here, especially in the anti-rights climate, is to support the lawful gun owning public even if it means not selling to a hand full of persons given "special rights" by their state. Equal rights has to mean equal rights. I'd like to see them support that fundamental American principle.

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