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13 years 11 months ago #6067
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Ok, I have been reloading for just over a year now...and have learned alot here, from the other senior members and those that have been doing it for years, I have also learned from other areas such as the manufacture's web sites and reloading forums....
I have came to the conclusion on the different types of Brass out there and just thought I would share my findings....
For the most part all cases measured around 2.002 to 2.004".
This includes the following....all were factory ammo, once fired.
Federal...Power Shock
Remington Core Lock
Winchester Super X
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Hornady Match....
Now after full-length re-sizing they measured as such...
(On Average)
Winchester...2.023"
Remington....2.018"
Hornady......2.024"
and Federal being the winner....
Federal......2.011..on average..
I have to say even my beloved hornady was a bit disappointing as I figured that the brass would be stronger than it is...I have heard that Winchester makes the cases for Hornady...
Being the amount of "stretch" in the re-sizing, I am lead to believe this statement.
But of course I will continue to shoot Hornady ammo...but for Reloading I will use the Federal brass as it seems it will have a longer case life...I haven't tried the Ultramax brass yet...that is Lake City brass and made by Federal...I am curious what that will do when put through the re-sizer....
Just some info and conclusions I came too...for those out there looking for good brass...as I said...in my opinion...Federal is the winner...
BMS
I have came to the conclusion on the different types of Brass out there and just thought I would share my findings....
For the most part all cases measured around 2.002 to 2.004".
This includes the following....all were factory ammo, once fired.
Federal...Power Shock
Remington Core Lock
Winchester Super X
and
Hornady Match....
Now after full-length re-sizing they measured as such...
(On Average)
Winchester...2.023"
Remington....2.018"
Hornady......2.024"
and Federal being the winner....
Federal......2.011..on average..
I have to say even my beloved hornady was a bit disappointing as I figured that the brass would be stronger than it is...I have heard that Winchester makes the cases for Hornady...
Being the amount of "stretch" in the re-sizing, I am lead to believe this statement.But of course I will continue to shoot Hornady ammo...but for Reloading I will use the Federal brass as it seems it will have a longer case life...I haven't tried the Ultramax brass yet...that is Lake City brass and made by Federal...I am curious what that will do when put through the re-sizer....
Just some info and conclusions I came too...for those out there looking for good brass...as I said...in my opinion...Federal is the winner...
BMS
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13 years 11 months ago #6073
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Interesting. I wonder how much of that material pushing out the length of the neck is due to the metallurgy and how much is due to the amount of meat in the neck. Have you measured the neck wall thickness? Might I suggest figuring out the actual case volume of the different cases before and after resizing/trimming. It may be that your Hornady brass (among other things) is just a bit heftier in wall thickness which is forcing the excess material out of the neck as the resizing ball is pulled through it.
One other thing: does your match-grade ammo use annealed brass? If so, it'll be a bit more elastic than the regular stuff. I dunno... I'm just pulling at straws here!
Brass is a personal usage preference thing. I load 45ACP (1911s), 308 (LAR-
, and 30-06 (M1 Garand), and right now I prefer Federal for the 45 ACP, Winchester for 308, and Remington for the 30-06. The FC 45 brass is just 'softer' and easier to resize & prime. However, I don't like the FC brass because of this in my rifle calibers. I've had a couple of issues with primers and such, but the WIN brass seems to be 'harder'. It's not as easy to resize or prime, but they seem to hold up better (~4 reloads on them so far). I bought new REM brass for the 30-06 as this was all that was available at the time, but it loads, feeds, shoots, and reloads great, so I'm now with REM for the Garand!
One other thing: does your match-grade ammo use annealed brass? If so, it'll be a bit more elastic than the regular stuff. I dunno... I'm just pulling at straws here!
Brass is a personal usage preference thing. I load 45ACP (1911s), 308 (LAR-
, and 30-06 (M1 Garand), and right now I prefer Federal for the 45 ACP, Winchester for 308, and Remington for the 30-06. The FC 45 brass is just 'softer' and easier to resize & prime. However, I don't like the FC brass because of this in my rifle calibers. I've had a couple of issues with primers and such, but the WIN brass seems to be 'harder'. It's not as easy to resize or prime, but they seem to hold up better (~4 reloads on them so far). I bought new REM brass for the 30-06 as this was all that was available at the time, but it loads, feeds, shoots, and reloads great, so I'm now with REM for the Garand! Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
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13 years 11 months ago #6169
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Well I should be a bit more specific, it is lake city brass reloaded by Ultramax...I sold Edge a boat load of it last year..shortly there after I started to reload... :blink: but oh well...he was happy with it...anyway...I looked at the factory Um I have and some of the empties...there are a few 04 but they are LC...I even found some with 76 84 90 92 96 02 03 04 06,,,,,there is one that is marked
lVl 70 thing is almost as old as me....almost :dry:
I want to thank you Z (Latigo) for your info on this....I know what to look for and why...but for the most part these a surplus/plinking/zombie rounds...that will be reloaded...so high end accuracy is not must...well
I do have to say that the Ultramax ammo is very accurate though...
and it is somewhat cheap...Somewhat. :dry:
Thanks again for the input....
BMS
lVl 70 thing is almost as old as me....almost :dry:
I want to thank you Z (Latigo) for your info on this....I know what to look for and why...but for the most part these a surplus/plinking/zombie rounds...that will be reloaded...so high end accuracy is not must...well
I do have to say that the Ultramax ammo is very accurate though...
and it is somewhat cheap...Somewhat. :dry:
Thanks again for the input....
BMS
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