Neck Lubing...????

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14 years 10 months ago #2830 by BUILDING MY SASS
Neck Lubing...???? was created by BUILDING MY SASS
I have been a debate on this, now my Hornady book and my Lee instruction both say to lube the inside of the neck when you resize.
This helps with the die and seating the bullet...and of course we want to use a "powder friendly" lube so as not to contaminate the powder or primer....The debate has included, no you don't need to lube the inside of the neck, lube ever so many rounds and lube when you think you need to.....What say YOU my fellow reloaders, and those nominated to the Reloading Council....NO really, I am sorry to be a nooby on this, but if you go by the book but some say other wise it gets confusing.. :side: ..especially for others...that are new to it. :unsure:
So all views will be appreciated. :)

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14 years 10 months ago #2831 by zfk55
Replied by zfk55 on topic Re:Neck Lubing...????
When approaching any aspect of reloading the first thing that should come to your mind is... Is it logical? Does it make sense?
Most aspects of reloading for the novice involve tried and true methodology, pressures, velocities and safety margins.
Even something as apparently simple as lubing the inside of a case neck requires the logical/sense test. The neck is metal. The ball expander is metal. Logic would say that these two metals will have friction between them, and the softer of the two is going to give way. Logic would also dictate that some sort of lubrication will lessen the stress of metal on metal.
Lube need not be thin and runny. The old tried and true pad type case lube we used for as long as I can remember. Its a non-compressible case lube that won't run down inside your cartridge, but....... for the unwashed....... note the word, non-compressible.
This particular case lube required that the user pay close attention to it's use. Typical methodolgy required rolling the cases back and forth on the pad, taking care not to allow a buildup on the case shoulder. Being non-compressible, a buildup would immediately cause the shoulder of the case to dent upon sizing. The new generation spray lubes and those of that emerging genere precluded that problem, so.... did all of us dump the non-compressible paste lubes? Nope. Some of us still do use them, but they're also argueably the best case mouth lube you can use.

Screw a nylon brush of the correct caliber into your plastic handled brush/flash-hole reamer holder, drill a hole through the plastic handle, screw it right into the edge of your reloading bench next to your press in an upright (vertical) position with just the brush protruding above the bench. Using your fingers, coat the bristles with the paste-lube and work it in. It will last a long time.
Use your spray lube, castor oil (our preference) or whatever your preference is, and just before you size the case, quickly run the brush up inside the case mouth. This is quick and sufficient lube to allow the ball expander to do its job with little resistance.
Simple thing, but the reduced stress will make your brass last just that much longer.

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14 years 10 months ago #2832 by a Guest
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We had the boys at AMU go to carbide expander ball which dos not require lube and are good for over a 1000000 rounds. We found that the little contamination did change the burn rate slitely in the crusher gun. Usualy it didn't make any differance but it stopped some supprizes from summer to winter. Also the load masters aka powder monkeys wear latex gloves. We also have been using a high frek jewelry cleaner for the last 30 years. And them things aint cheep. The loaded rounds are then tumbled in a very lite and stress that lite lube before boxing and ID taged. This last step aids in feeding and chamber ware and has several other benefits. This is on a high volume of match ammo.MSH

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14 years 9 months ago #2836 by BUILDING MY SASS
Replied by BUILDING MY SASS on topic Re:Neck Lubing...????
Well gentlemen, thanks for the input....MSH if I get to that point of High Volume Match ammo I will know what to do....call you and have you make them for me....LOL :lol: but seriously, I will keep that in mind....
Zfk, thank you also, all you stated makes perfect sense, to me anyway, and goes with everything I have read thus far...The debate was with some others that I know and it got to the point that I dropped out of the subject because I did not want to argue or offend anyone..
So again my friends, thanks for the info....at least I know I am doing it right and how to do it in a high end capacity for future reference.
BMS....

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