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13 years 7 months ago #7078 by Mustang-PaPa
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OK it's officialy mine, I was able to purchacse the ARMALITE AR-10A4 .308 that I was bidding on. Looks to be unfired NOS.I have purchased around 14 guns from this seller before and they are great to deal with and reputable. The .308 should ship in to my FFL next week. When I called to pay they informed me that they actually had two of these so I emailed my buddy in Va how has also purchased many guns from the same seller and told him and he was able to make a deal on the twin to mine.
I know it doesn't have the forward assist which isn't a problem for me. It does have the green furniture, SS match Bbl & two stage trigger. Other then that I haven't been able to dig up much on it.
Thanks to some good reading here I was able to pick up % of the Armalite 20rd mags that are on sale.
Still have some optics to buy for it but will need to save a bit for the right set-up.
I'm leaning towards the tactical scope with cross hairs which with my aging eyesite is best. Red-dots and Holo's just don't work well for me.

Any info would be apprecisted.

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13 years 7 months ago #7080 by mlotziii
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Congrats on the acquisition! and welcome to the site

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13 years 7 months ago #7083 by LebbenB
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Congrats on the new rifle. I hope it gives you many years of loyal service.

As for optics, rings and mounts...You really have to sort the wheat from the chaff on this one. Thses days, many companies (over)use the word, "Tactical." Just because it's painted matte black/camoflage and has exposed turrets doesn't necessarily mean it's able to take a beating in the Box and hold zero. For many concerns, slapping the "tactical" moniker on a scope is simply a way of raising it's price. Remember the old saying, "If it looks too good to be true, it probably is."

From your post, I gather you're an experienced shooter so you've got a pretty good idea of what you want in a scope. Check out MidwayUSA and SWFA's websites. Both offer a wide variety of scopes at all price points. For more info on scopes, I'd also take a gander at SWFA's in-house forum, Optics Talk. There's also Sniper's Hide, but much of the info there can be contradictory and many of the threads tend to devolve into bickering and name calling.

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13 years 7 months ago #7136 by Mustang-PaPa
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Well I picked up the AR-10 Thursday and am very pleased. Man that thing is a Beast! I also ordered the (5) 20rd mags that Armalite had on sale so I'm now good to go on mags.

I've been a member of OpticsTalk for several years and go there for good advice on optics. SWFA has just released the new SS scope and WOW that would certainly do everything I'd ever need to do but am gonna have to save up for that so in the mean time I need to go with iron sights.
Looking at what Armalite has to offer they show MI front and rear flip-ups & sling for $205 or the carry handle and front sight for $185.

I like the Di-opt style rears but need to be schooled on flip up sight heights. The packages are clears as to what they fit but the single rears aren't as clear.
What I need are front and rear sights that are not on the same plane. The gas block is lower. That part I get.

My question is are all rear sights the same height for most all ar-15s & ar-10's and the difference is in the lower gas bock which would require that the front sight be taller?
I just don't see clear opions for buying seperat front and rear sights so a quick schooling would help me understand what I need to be looking for when searching for options.

Thanks all..

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13 years 7 months ago #7137 by LebbenB
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What I need are front and rear sights that are not on the same plane. The gas block is lower. That part I get.

No. Both the front sight and rear sight need to be on the same focal plane. That's why an AR-10 front sight is slightly taller an AR-15 front sight.

My question is are all rear sights the same height for most all ar-15s & ar-10's and the difference is in the lower gas bock which would require that the front sight be taller?
I just don't see clear opions for buying seperat front and rear sights so a quick schooling would help me understand what I need to be looking for when searching for options.

The rear sight is the same for both AR-15s and AR-10s. For options, it's really down to you as far as what you want in a sight. Rear sights can be fixed or folding with one or two aperatures. If your intention is to add some glass to your rifle, yet retain your irons, I would say go with a folding set of BUIS. Some of the better rear sights are made by MI, LMT, LaRue, YHM, and Troy Industries. Most rear sights (fixed or folding) tend to mimic the carrying handle rear sight of the M16A2 - a small target style aperature for longer shots, a larger ghost ring aperature for close range shooting, and an exposed knob for windage adjustment. Over the last few years, M16A1-type aperatures have become popular. This does away with the target aperature in favor of a flat small aperature. The aperature itself is a bit bigger and some shooters claim that it's easier (on their eyes) to use.

For the front, it's not a very big menu. Midwest Industries makes a folding front sight for the AR-10 and Armalite makes a detachable fixed front sight. Close attention needs to be paid to the front sight post. If it's marked "National Match," the front sight post will be very narrow, in order to allow for more precise shot placement. If it's not so marked, then the post will be the same width as an M16A2 front sight post.

HTH

Leb

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13 years 7 months ago #7138 by BUILDING MY SASS
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Since MI was mentioned....;)

Leb...on the A2 front sights...there is a thread on arfcom about them...not only are the post different...but the NM is taller...by a fraction...that came from ArmaLite themselves....in the post...TR to be correct...

Mustang..welcome and congrats...
I would say for the money and use...MI is your best bet...with your handguard...the AR-10 front sight can be reversed and lay back on the factory hand guard...but if you plan to get a Railed hand guard they will have to fold forward like mine...
If you are not in a big hurry...I have it on good authority that there is a new sight coming out for the railed gas block for the AR-10...but I can not say exactly when...but soon.. it is meant for the AR-10s with railed hand guards....it will lay back on the hand guard from the gas block...this is a problem with the current sight...
So it is up to you....it you do not intend to get a railed hand guard...the standard front sight would be fine...as well as the rear...
On my AR-10 (which can be seen in the Article section) you will see i have the ERS and the Front sight...
On my M-15..I have the SPLP and the front sight for the AR-15 railed gas block...
You can't go wrong with MI....they are a great company...I do alot of business with them...
Stay away from Troy...I have heard of people having problems with the coming loose.
They say in the instruction to Loctite them when installing them..this is not a good thing...YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO LOC TITE YOUR SIGHTS ON....
If I can be of any other help...just holler..
BMS

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13 years 7 months ago #7140 by Mustang-PaPa
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Good advice and yes I unstand that the sights need to be on the same plane and it the rails that are on different planes...the front sight makes up the difference by being taller to level out the sight plain.

Leb you pretty much backed up what I was seeing in the research that I was doing in that there aren't a lot of options for the AR10 gas block front sight.
For now I plan on going with the open sight untill I can put the funds together to invest in some good optics. That will run right at $1,000 from what I'm seeing right now. I wanna go all out when I do get them. SWFA has the new SS scope that they just released that is looking to be a big hit right now. Its only been out a little over a month so by the time I get the funds to go that route it will have been out and had more time to be proven and hopefully any issues or flaws will have been discovered and worked out.

again thanks for all the help here.

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13 years 7 months ago #7142 by Mustang-PaPa
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Well the funds were just freed up and approved for purchase from my better half wiffy so I decided to go with the Midwest Industries front and rear sights from Armalite. Think these will serve me well untill such time that I can make the next step of some high dollar optics.
Leb thanks for the good advice about the good quality and customer support that the MI sights have. Shouldn't need any help from them but ya never know and for the price paid I certainly want to know that help is there if needed.

www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=SHOO...4c-8fe6-3aef9d5d6653

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13 years 7 months ago #7143 by LebbenB
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Midwest Industries is a "stand up" company. Buy with confidence - they'll take care of you over and above the call.

They say in the instruction to Loctite them when installing them..this is not a good thing...YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO LOC TITE YOUR SIGHTS ON....


Vibration is a sneaky and insidious foe. If the screw isn't staked down, a la the screws on the gas key of the BCG, it'll vibrate loose eventually. I red loctite'd the screws on the gas block of mine. Optics and sights that screw on get blue loctite, because they're more apt to changed out.

SWFA has the new SS scope that they just released that is looking to be a big hit right now. Its only been out a little over a month so by the time I get the funds to go that route it will have been out and had more time to be proven and hopefully any issues or flaws will have been discovered and worked out.

Earlier, I had mentioned snipershide.com. Those folks change optics the way I change socks. There's usually some very good scopes for sale at a fraction of their MSRP in their marketplace forum. You might be able to get a smokin' deal on a piece of killer glass/mounts/rings.

...on the A2 front sights...there is a thread on arfcom about them...not only are the post different...but the NM is taller...by a fraction...that came from ArmaLite themselves....in the post...TR to be correct...


Very good. I stand corrected.

Leb

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13 years 7 months ago #7152 by BUILDING MY SASS
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Mustang...here is a link to an article that might also give you some ideas for up grades and stay in the allotted budget from the better half...;)
I too have to occasionally run things by the boss or so she thinks...:laugh: :whistle:

www.ar10t.com/handguards/economical-add-ons

BMS

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