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14 years 11 months ago #2366 by dpmsfulton
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Seasons greetings to all. I was wondering if anyone out there knows if anyone has started making after market gas piston systems for the ar10 yet?

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14 years 11 months ago - 14 years 11 months ago #2371 by BUILDING MY SASS
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From what MSH said awhile back, the System wouldn't hold up to the AR-10, if I recall right. The only AR style weapon that I have came across is made be LWRC, the REPR and SABR.
They are both .308 and piston driven. No one else has them to my knowledge....I may be wrong so if someone knows of another company, by all means, let me know.....
BMS


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Sorry, my bad, there is one more.....The HK MR7.62

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But this is a totally different animal, they will not interchange with standard ARs.
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14 years 11 months ago #2374 by BUILDING MY SASS
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I had to find the article on the HK, here is a quote from the article.....

These ambidextrous semi-auto rifles use the proprietary HK gas piston system found on the HK416/HK417 and G36


So again these are the two I know of.....If you are thinking about either, well does the phrase "whats in your wallet" give you an idea on the price.....not cheap!!!!

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14 years 11 months ago #2381 by dpmsfulton
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That's why I'm asking. HK, LWRC, Keltec, and I believe Magpul have all designed/produced a gas piston system for the cartridge, so it seems they have figured out how to handle that power level. I think presently there just isn't a big enough market, but believe we will eventually see an aftermarket system. It does seem to me in my ignorance that HK and LWRC are using the same basic design as the ar10.

I imagine it will be pricey, at least at first, but nowdays, what isn't for the ar10.

MSH, any input on this?

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14 years 11 months ago #2382 by a Guest
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I am in process of testing a unit of my own design but I'm going to have to get the steel uppers made to hold up. The 15s are breaking in the threaded area of the receiver that the barrel nut clamps the barrel on. MSH

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14 years 11 months ago - 14 years 11 months ago #2478 by BUILDING MY SASS
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Hey MSH you are going to love this....
A young friend of mine came across a deal on the new SR 556 for $900.00, I of course told him to jump on it for that price, well that was before I knew this....the KID as I call him...did some research on it and found this forum page, it has some info those thinking about it or own one to think about and watch for.....apparently there is some issue with "bolt carrier tilt" eating up the receiver. I have never heard of it, but that is not saying much....I just thought I would post this link for anyone who is interested in the info..
forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php...=1908133#post1908133
Read down the page and make your own opinions....
I won't buy one...
BMS

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SORRY GUYS WRONG PISTON THREAD....OH WELL....may be the boss can move it....OOPS
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14 years 11 months ago #2480 by a Guest
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Yea there has been some issues with the frame grinders. The design of the bolt carrier was reduced back there to allow free running of the carrier after the bolt unlocks and as a benefit also to help on miss matched frames. The frames are allowed a .010 mismatch back there. Now that these pistons are on the market we'll find out who's got the proper alined frames won't we. Also There was a clown that made some bolt carriers that were to be the anti tilt type that he put the extra bearing material on the wrong side. I think those carriers may get to tight with some of these MFGs and may not work in the winter. Stay tuned and we'll all find out. Hope it aint in the sandbox.MSH

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14 years 11 months ago #2481 by Dont_Tread_On_Me
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Well Old Man, as my first post on AR10T, I must say I'm surprised your doing this well this computers. Hahaha.

As for the Ruger, another thing I forgot to mention is its about twice as heavy as any AR I've handled. All the weight is towards the front. Another reason I'm not getting it.

The piston system sure would be nice if it weren't for that carrier tilt. The receiver and buffer tube just won't last like it should. And, some features on the rest of the rifle may just be a marketing ploy.

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14 years 11 months ago #2484 by a Guest
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The carrier tilt is not as big of a problem as made out to be. Think about the guides on the bolt carrier and where there located. Ink the carrier up and rock it by hand and you'll figure it out. Those short stroke pistons only contact the striker pad on the carrier for a short distance, and then after that there is no effect on the carrier.MSH

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14 years 11 months ago #2486 by a Guest
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Wonder how you know I hate computers. I hope the person that invented them dies with a good case of the red ass. I remember when Burger King opened and there was about 7 kids working there, if you stayed in line for longer than a 1 min you ate free. They got computers there now and how long do we stay in line and 80% of the time somethings wrong with the order.MSH

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