New Life for the 6.8SPC????

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10 years 11 months ago #33967 by OleCowboy
LWRC: 6.8 SPC is the New 300 Blackout

A while back, LWRC scored a large contract with a (friendly) foreign military for about 40,000 guns. The military in question is moving from 5.56x45mm NATO to the 6.8 SPC round, but they want to stick with the AR platform. So LWRC will be making a ton of 6.8 ARs for them, and the civilian market will also get semi-auto version in the form of LWRC’s new Six8 line.

LWRC’s Six8 line is basically a premium, piston-driven AR in 6.8 SPC, but there’s one wrinkle that I know many of you will be disappointed to hear: it takes a proprietary magazine.

The military buyer had some concerns about reliable feeding with the 6.8 SPC round, so LWRC produced a version for them with an enlarged mag well that supposedly helps with feeding. Magpul will be making the proprietary mags, so there should be plenty of them available. I don’t know how much they’re going to cost, though.

Now that LWRC has a ton of inventory in 6.8 that they’re looking to sell this year, it makes sense that they’re touting the round as the wave of the future and insisting that .300 blackout (a round that many have said will drive 6.8 SPC into obsolescence) will remain a popular but niche caliber.

The LWRC rep claimed that the US military is currently taking another look at 6.8 SPC and that they’ve stepped back from .300 blackout because soldiers are accidentally getting the larger ammo mixed in with their 5.56 and blowing up guns.

Between this foreign government’s move to 6.8 and the US military’s alleged revisiting of the round as a possible 5.56 replacement, it’s clear that LWRC, at least, thinks that 6.8 SPC is going to be huge. Ballistically it’s part way between 5.56 and .308, but it has a negligible weight increase over 5.56.

As for me, I think it’s a great hunting cartridge, but it’s still way to expensive right now at $1.00 per round. It’s also not clear to me whether increased adoption by the world’s militaries will make the round cheaper or more expensive. Reloaders may have a different perspective on the round’s price, though. I’d love to hear from you in the comments if you do.

As far as the civilian market goes, 6.8′s major competitor isn’t .300 blackout, but good old .308 Winchester. So-called AR-10 format guns are increasingly popular right now, and for good reason. You can take pretty much any game in North America with them, and while they’re significantly more expensive than an AR in 5.56/.223, the ammo is almost half the price of either 6.8 or .300blk. It costs more to get started with .308, but if you do any amount of shooting, then it pays for itself pretty quickly.

On the flip side, though, many hunters really don’t shoot very much at all. They may take a gun to the range once before hunting season just to check its zero, and then once in the field they’ll take maybe ten shots during the season. So a cheaper 6.8 SPC gun would save such a person money, especially if that person will have a hard time convincing their significant other to let them drop up-front $2,800 on a nice AR-10.

Either way, LWRC has placed their bet on 6.8 in a big way for 2014, so you’ll be reading a lot more about the Six8 line and the caliber that inspired it over the course of this year.

- See more at: www.alloutdoor.com/2014/01/20/lwrc-6-8-s...sthash.f2DnmvMs.dpuf

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10 years 11 months ago - 10 years 11 months ago #33968 by OleCowboy
In Feb of 2012 LWRCI signed a $109 million dollar 18 month contract with the Government of Saudi Arabia, sanctioned by the U.S. Department of State and U.S. Congress. This is the largest direct commercial to foreign government sale of firearms in the history of the ATF Exports Branch.

I personally would not have gone that direction. If 308 is too much and 5.56 not enough then my choice would be 300 blk...NOT 6.8 SPC with next to hard to get ammo, then you got to make sure you are getting the ammo you want of the 3 (was told the other day its now 4) different versions...
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10 years 11 months ago #33969 by faawrenchbndr
300 Blackout only outperforms the 6.8 in a short barreled, suppressed rifle, at close range.
The 300 is an aerodynamic pig!

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10 years 11 months ago - 10 years 11 months ago #33982 by MrMarty51
Whyunt they just quit messingk aroun and go back to the 30.06, they`ll prolly get there afore long anyhow.
www.onlylongrange.com/bn36.asp :drool: :drool: :drool: :rotfl:
That`d be Mine real choice iff`n I had to go to combat. :sharkey:
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10 years 11 months ago #33983 by MrMarty51
Good thing about if and when they go to the 6.8, it`ll or it shud bring the price of the 5.56 down, maybe. if the market gets flooded with the stuff.

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10 years 11 months ago - 10 years 11 months ago #33988 by faawrenchbndr

MrMarty51 wrote: Whyunt they just quit messingk aroun and go back to the 30.06, they`ll prolly get there afore long anyhow.....




Have a wee bit of M2 on hand for my 1903A3.........Even have a few boxes of accelerators.
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10 years 11 months ago #33995 by Siscowet
Have 400 rds 30-06 all 168 gr Sierra boattail soft point handloads. Only 30-06 round I have shot for the last 35 years.

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10 years 11 months ago #33997 by faawrenchbndr
Good shooting stuff,.......

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10 years 11 months ago #34009 by Siscowet

faawrenchbndr wrote: Good shooting stuff,.......

I honestly cannot remember the last time one of those bullets was outside the 9 ring within 300 yards. I have never used a second shot on any deer or other critter I have shot with it. I know it and it knows me, so that is the only load I will ever use. Only load my Savage Bolt gun has ever known.

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10 years 11 months ago - 10 years 11 months ago #34012 by SOC
Replied by SOC on topic New Life for the 6.8SPC????
Anything the 6.8 can do the 6.5 Grendel can do better to a longer range with many many more bullet options.

No SPC vs SPCII chamber danger issues with 6.5 Gren.

The only reason to go 6.8 is if your limited to factory ammo. (Where do I find 6.8? Might as well reload anyway...)

I look at the 6.5 Gren as a 300 RSAUM for the AR-15 but without the reduced mag capacity issue of the 300.

O and as far as I know Alexander Arms isn't selling 10s of 1000s of guns to the Sauds. I don't see that deal as good press for LWRC who IMHO are over rated any whey.
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